Re: ratio of least to most expensive unit in cohousing? | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Raines Cohen (rc3-coho-L![]() |
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 06:47:55 -0700 (PDT) |
Kristi, I see you've gotten some great responses here already from people in several communities, so I'll just add my two cents on some of the underlying principles at play here, including price, value, equity, fairness, inclusivity, creativity, and opportunity. I've been part of this discussion in one cohousing neighborhood, and advised a little on others. Note that the tension you're experiencing is not at all unusual, and not specific to working with an existing building: every site has design constraints, and painful trade-offs that have to be made in # and size and price of units, to fit the build-able "envelope." First of all, don't lose sight of the fact that by engaging in the cohousing process of community design, you're buying yourselves great deals, in terms of the value and quality and long-term savings from the efficiency and community living. The experts have validated this value, time and time again, with cohousing projects designed with resident participation selected for awards over professional "we know what you need so we'll build it for you" conventional developments; FrogSong Cohousing in Cotati, CA is such an example. The challenge is in making the value accessible to the members in ways that help them get in the door. In your case, by renovating an existing building and embracing PassivHaus (passive house) design principles and standards (if press accounts of decisions the group made after the presentation I attended at your meeting last month are correct), you're building the most energy-efficient multifamily housing in America, with systems that will not just, by conservative estimates, pay for themselves in a few years, but result in multi-million dollar savings over time. You are "future-proofed" against carbon taxes and fuel cost increases that are virtually certain with the onset of Peak Oil and collective action to head off climate change. Of course, not everybody (especially traditionally conservative lenders) appreciate this kind of investment in the future, or is willing to share in the cost and (perceived) risks involved of "pushing the envelope" in this regard, no matter how logical and smart the decision (and other group design elements) may be in the long view. Some buyers, especially those that need larger units that bear a larger share of the base square-foot construction and development costs, may find it harder, especially in today's "new world" (really more of a return to the pre-boom "old world") of banking, to stretch their "jumbo" loans to meet their needs. This is where the creative collaborative consensus process can come in and create new alternatives, from new ways of looking at the problem. Here's a couple of off-the-cuff approaches, inspired by different groups' approaches as well as workshops with Katie & Chuck & Zev & Neshama & Chris and others at national conferences (I do hope your group is sending some members to the Seattle conference this month, where you can soak up an awful lot of this): - while the bulk of construction costs are generally allocated per square foot (or per kitchen/bathroom, as Sharon notes), some portion of administrative/marketing/overhead costs are per unit. Perhaps some estimate of per-unit fixed costs from your budget can lead you to set a base price per unit/greater proportional cost-share rather than strict per-square-foot pricing. (but see my note below about not getting too hung up on this one) - the group can set up its own loan fund to help members who need it with "silent" (recorded after closing) second mortgages and other innovative financing tools; members who have more cash available than they need to close can invest it in a revolving loan fund, or the group's profit-share can help fund it. - perhaps some members will qualify for city or state purchase- or down-payment-assistance programs - members can go in together on a unit, running it as a mini co-op within cohousing - larger families can add walls after move-in to subdivide a room, so they can fit more kids with fewer rooms - perhaps the marketing team can identify characteristics of people who can afford the true costs of the larger units and do targeted outreach to connect with them - people may not need as much room as they think they do, because they're not used to factoring in the common space, guest room(s), and other shared amenities of community living. Perhaps some exercises to help people explore what they need extra space for and how much they might need it if someone else can help them get their needs met more creatively would be in order at this stage. I've seen groups at your stage of development (which you should keep in mind you're running through at breakneck pace, by cohousing standards) spend lots of time and energy agonizing over what amount to small details in the big picture, relatively small differences in price or features. It's at times like this that getting quality social time together can be important, building bonds that last, getting to the point of having confidence in the group's common ground and shared vision can help get past everyone's inevitable fixation on "their" unit. If you can help people get to the point where they don't see it as giving something up, but rather as creating opportunity and helping the whole project happen, you'll be able to achieve your deeper goals of getting the project built and sold and getting on with community living. One particular note on your group's process: I was a little surprised to see the invitation sent to your group's announcement/interest list to come see the unit selection as an example of the group consensus process, because that seems like one element that's usually not by the group's standard procedure... will you be making full-group decisions about who "gets" which unit? Or is it by strict-seniority-in-unit-selection order... or something else? The one group I was a member of for this stage (Swan's Market Cohousing) had an order-of-joining list and preliminary selections, but as household #17 (out of 20) it was hard for me to know for sure which unit I would end up with because of the "ripple effect" of any changes ahead of me. I'll be back in your area in mid-to-late July (my Great-Aunt's coop apartment in Jackson Heights hasn't sold, because the board didn't approve the buyer -- or perhaps didn't like the sales price making their places' decline in value all too real), and would love to better meet the group (so far I've been to two orientations and one public meeting while passing by, without much time to chat) and share stories of some of the challenges other communities have faced (I've visited 87 so far) and overcome, and look at how the group can get past the "us-versus-them" perception that can infuse key decisions like this one. It looks like my friends Mandy and Ryan, doing their "Within Reach" documentary-filming bike tour visiting sustainable communities around the country, will be passing through NYC at about the same time, so perhaps we can make a fun outreach event out of it. Raines Cohen, Cohousing Coach http://www.CohousingCoach.com/ (now making appointments and scheduling interviews at the national cohousing conference in Seattle, June 26-29) Planning for Sustainable Communities at Berkeley (CA) Cohousing intrigued at some new developments that could bring at least two senior cohousing neighborhoods to the area Enjoying a fun run in the sun of San Francisco Bay Area cohousing activities: In the past week: a report from Boulder's Silver Sage senior cohousing residents in San Francisco, a table at the Older American's Month celebration in Oakland, a Maker Faire booth in San Mateo, and an Indian Sitar house concert at Berkeley Cohousing, along with a vegan/raw-food class. In the week Ahead: Opera in the SF Ballpark this Friday evening (join us - it's free), a North Bay carpool tour of cohousing and co-ops (about a third the price of the bus tours, and visiting some smaller communities), as well as an artists' open house that includes an Emeryville cohousing neighborhood this and next Saturday, San Mateo EcoVillage open houses this and next Sunday, a video on the mortgage crisis Monday, a downtown-SF talk with sustainable architects and planners Wednesday, and then a bicycle tour of Berkeley-Oakland-Emeryville cohousing next Saturday. Details at East Bay Cohousing: http://www.ebcoho.org/
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