Re: Bad tenant alert
From: Holly McNutt (holly.mcnuttgmail.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 08:47:51 -0700 (PDT)
PattyMara,
Re: your comments on why people within the community don't talk about this 
stuff, I think you are right on the nose there.  When it finally gets 'bad 
enough' the talk begins, but by then it is sometimes too late. And yes, there 
can be problematic owners as well for sure.
- h

On Mar 13, 2011, at 1:16 PM, PattyMara Gourley wrote:

> 
> and one more thing:
> This thread deals with renters, this pattern of behavior is not exclusive to
> just renters. There are also owners who have moved through coho communities
> wrecking havoc in their wake.
> 
> well, OK, one more thing:
> When Ann writes:  *My question still is regarding multiple rentals in the
> same community by this person -- are  people not talking to each other in
> the community?  This is a bigger issue to me than the renters in question.*
> People are *not *talking to each other in community (it would be judged as
> gossiping).   And even more dangerous, people defend  destructive behavior
> patterns, for altruistic reasons like inclusivity, compassion & patience.
> At the very least, there is a cone of silence about the troublesome aspects
> of community living in order to show a positive face to the outside world.
> 
> 
> I see this thread of forewarning other communities as very healthy.
> Hopefully it will encourage better boundaries and diminish the tendency for
> cohousing communities becoming sanctuary for difficult personalities.
> 
> Pattymara
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Robin Alexander
> <alexande.robi [at] uwlax.edu>wrote:
> 
>> 
>> In addition, this was not just a random collection of renter horror
>> stories; it concerned one couple who had a pattern of victimizing a series
>> of cohousings. Therefore it makes sense to warn people about them so they
>> are forewarned.
>> 
>> Robin A.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Muriel Kranowski [mailto:murielk [at] vt.edu]
>> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 1:10 PM
>> To: bburnham [at] lisc.org; Cohousing-L
>> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Bad tenant alert
>> 
>> 
>> Barbara, I understand that these messages bother you.  For me, though,
>> living in a community where there are some rented units, these stories are
>> a good reminder that homeowners should be careful and engage in some due
>> diligence when strangers come around wanting to rent.  If a community has
>> had renters who seem to specialize in ripping off cohousing homeowners,
>> it's a great service for someone in the community to pass on the relevant
>> facts to the rest of us.
>> 
>> Of course most renters are normal good-enough people, as are most
>> landlords, as are people in general.  But it's good to have an awareness
>> of the few exceptions who can cause so much misery and cost so much money.
>> 
>>  Muriel
>> 
>> 
>> At 01:50 PM 3/13/2011, you wrote:
>> 
>>> OK, OK enough with the bad tenant stories. I understand that what you
>>> are describing is a tough situation but it is highly unusual. Almost 40
>>> percent of Americans are renters, some because they want to be but most
>>> because they do not have the equity, or the secure employment or the
>>> credit history to do so. There are just as many horror stories of bad
>>> landlords shutting off water or heat, harrassing tenants as there are
>>> bad tenant stories.  Frankly I am surprised at the tenor of these emails.
>>> Barbara
>>> Eastern Village
>>> 
>>> ----------Original Message----------
>>> 
>>> From: Joanie Connors <jvcphd [at] gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 1:38 PM
>>> To: Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Bad tenant alert
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Interestingly, the Village Voice has a story this week about the 10
>>> worst tenants in NYC. Some of these awful stories might make you feel
>>> lucky!
>>> 
>>> Stories of 10 worst tenants in NYC
>>> http://www.villagevoice.com/2011-03-09/news/nyc-ten-worst-tenants?utm_s
>>> ource=Newsletters&utm_medium=email
>>> 
>>> Definitely, the protections for tenants have gone too far. There needs
>>> to be a middle ground somewhere!
>>> 
>>> Joanie
>>> Silver City EcoCommunity planning group
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