Cohousing-L Mailing List: Re: Energy demand is the problem - Big Oil

[Darien (darien]

Certainly there is intent to make large profits. Where is the boundary  
between large profits and ripping us off?

Darien Payne

On Jul 15, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Norman Gauss wrote:

> We already have an alternative way to generate energy, nuclear power  
> plants.
> But, as we have learned, there is a downside to that technology.
>
> New technologies that Big Oil is using include greater ability to  
> drill
> deeper and farther out into the water.  The humongous expense of  
> getting the
> oil out of these hard-to-reach places is the end result of Big Oil  
> trying
> harder and harder to find and extract more oil.  When this type of  
> activity
> declines (it will because it is mining, and all mines eventually  
> decline),
> gasoline will begin to skyrocket in price.  Enjoy the cheap gasoline  
> now
> because the forecast is for a leveling off and decline of oil supply  
> in the
> years ahead.
>
> Do you believe that there is a conspiracy to rip us off?
>
> Norm Gauss
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karen Carlson [mailto:kcarlson2 [at] wisc.edu]
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 11:11 AM
> To: Cohousing-L
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Energy demand is the problem
>
>
> Super huge profits and super huge subsidies obviously haven't  
> motivated Big
> Oil to invest in new technologies --unless it's still another carbon- 
> based
> form (e.g. fracking).  If non-carbon based, sustainable technologies  
> were on
> the same playing field as Big Oil, they could jointly produce far more
> energy then we've been lead to believe.  How is it that some cities  
> and
> countries of Europe are already well down the path of becoming  
> independent
> of carbon-based fuels?
>
> Given the unending handouts to Big Oil, how can other forms of energy
> compete? To level the playing field, we should consider taxing  
> carbon-based
> fuel as it comes out of the ground or crosses the boarder and return  
> all the
> tax money to citizens.  This plan (carbon fee &
> dividend) would off set the additional cost of fuels to poorer  
> citizens and
> it would build political will to develop new technologies.  It would  
> also
> satisfy the politicians who have signed a "no new taxes" pledge.
>
> Karen Carlson
> Arboretum Cohousing Community
> Madison WI
>
> On 7/15/11 12:02 PM, Norman Gauss wrote:
> > Has it ever occurred to the critics of Big Oil that the profits made
> > by Big Oil may benefit you and me because they can be used for
> > exploration and development of new technologies so that we can have  
> > more
> cheap gasoline?
> > With lower profits, energy companies are less able to invest in new
> > technologies and to explore for new fossil fuel deposits.
> >
> >
> >
> > Norm Gauss
> >
> >
> >
> >
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