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From: Sharon Villines (sharonsharonvillines.com) | |
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2015 07:37:37 -0700 (PDT) |
> On Sep 4, 2015, at 9:23 AM, R Philip Dowds <rpdowds [at] comcast.net> wrote: > > Affordable cohousing struggles within the larger context of affordable > housing generally. For decades now, average American household incomes have > not been keeping up with escalation in construction costs and real estate > prices — so almost all housing, for almost everyone, is increasingly > unaffordable. And, there is nothing magical about the cohousing model that > can deliver housing at prices significantly below market respective to > comparable “regular” housing. I agree with all your points, Philip, but would add that what cohousing began as was a cooperative lifestyle designed for the needs of a group of people who worked to build it or to convert existing buildings for it. Housing becomes more and more expensive because people want more and more. Are these things really necessary: Multiple bathrooms Expensive fixtures and dishwashers A bedroom and/or office for every adult SF beyond the minimum Granite counter-tops Recessed lighting Cable TV, digital connections, etc, in every room Laundry rooms in each home Dining rooms How much is necessary in the common house? A great room and a sun-heated dining room. A big closet for tools and lawnmowers. Perhaps another sun-heated space for children to run around and a pingpong table. Can you design minimal so things can be added later? SF is said to be the least expensive part of housing but you still have to heat and cool it. And it is tempting to fill it with more stuff. A story I’m repeating from the discussion a few years ago on low income cohousing: A woman in DC wanted to have low income cohousing so she could have enough room to adopt a child. She lived with a roommate in a rent-controlled apartment. She worked but at a low government wage. But when she began to publicize her interest it attracted middle class people who wanted a minimum of three bedrooms with a dining room or den, basement, etc. A condo to brag about even if it is in one of "those places." This was totally the opposite of what the woman started the group for and she felt they had not only edged her out but had taken over her project. They were totally sincere when they said they would accommodate her needs, too, but she could see that they didn’t understand low income housing or her needs. In addition to marker rate housing, they were committed to social ideals when she still needed a place to live as an adult and as an adult with a child. On the hierarchy of needs they were in totally different places. But she also did not have the skills to negotiate the bureaucracy of subsidized housing or organizations like Habitat for Humanity. That’s what she needed help with — not to be concerned a broom closet in every kitchen or a formula for the racial mix of the community. The low income end of cohousing has begun to get attention, at least on the west coast, but it needs more. It needs strategies like the ones that have emerged on how to deal with developers. I found this when researching this post: Tiny Cohousing in Portland called Simply Home Cohousing. Includes nice pictures and a video http://www.treehugger.com/tiny-houses/simply-home-tiny-cohousing-community-portland.html Includes links to several other articles. But again, these are mostly out in the sticks where zoning allows them. And you have to have a car, which can double the cost of the house on a long term basis. Sharon ---- Sharon Villines Sociocracy: A Deeper Democracy http://www.sociocracy.info
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