Cohousing-L Mailing List: Re: Data

[Ann Zabaldo (zabaldo]

Angela – – you do walk on water!

Thanks for the updated data. I'll change the figures in  my presentation on 
Monday. 

I CCed the cohousing list so that everyone would have this updated information. 

Ann Zabaldo
Takoma Village Cohousing
Washington DC

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 9, 2016, at 2:58 AM, Angela Sanguinetti <angelasanguinetti [at] 
> gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ann,
> 
> I did some more calculations based on the 158 communities listed as complete 
> in the directory and the average of 23.25 residents per community based on 
> our survey in 2012. Based on these numbers and the average 2.5 persons per 
> household, also from our survey, a better up to date estimate of total 
> persons in cohousing in the US is 9,164. You can multiply this number by any 
> of the below percentages to get an estimate of particular subgroups in 
> cohousing now. Hope this helps.
> 
> Angela
> 
>> On Jan 7, 2016 4:13 AM, "Ann Zabaldo" <zabaldo [at] earthlink.net> wrote:
>> I sincerely appreciate you doing this work Angela.
>> 
>> I'm getting ready to submit a proposal to the city Council for including 
>> Cohousing as part of its plan in dealing with the rising number of seniors 
>> in the city meeting care and housing. 
>> 
>> I think you can understand that saying 78% of communities have seniors 60 
>> and older is useful if we don't know what it is 78% of. 
>> 
>> So I am doubly grateful for you taking the time and figuring out the 
>> extrapolations. They will be certainly good enough for the work that I'm 
>> doing right now. I don't know what can be done about this but definitely we 
>> need more ongoing work to keep these numbers current as Cohousing grows.
>> 
>> Thank you again and again and again 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 7, 2016, at 12:52 AM, Angela Sanguinetti <angelasanguinetti [at] 
>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ann,
>>> 
>>> Here is what I found in response to your requests (my responses in bold).
>>> 
>>>  I have the Report on Survey of Cohousing Communities 2011.  I’m needing 
>>> some data in numbers, not percentages.
>>> 
>>> The report you refer to is not the research I will be referencing, which is 
>>> the 2012 national survey of residents, so it will be a bit more recent. You 
>>> can find a large slide presentation on cohousingresearchnetwork.org. I also 
>>> can send along the brief narrative report we wrote. I am also happy to 
>>> review your proposal or any other materials you are working on in case I 
>>> can identify other areas where I have supporting data.
>>> >
>>> > Example:  “Most (78%) of the communities have residents between65 and 80 
>>> > years of age and half have a few residents over age eighty.”
>>> 
>>> Regarding getting numbers rather than percentages... Nobody has ever 
>>> surveyed all households of all communities to have numbers reflecting the 
>>> entire population living in cohousing. The best anybody has done is our 
>>> 2012 survey in which we collected addresses for ALL housing units in ALL 
>>> cohousing communities in the US, from which we drew a random sample of 1000 
>>> households. We oversampled retrofit cohousing communities in order to 
>>> adequately represent them. We ended up with over 500 respondents from 109 
>>> communities and we can say that they represent the general population of 
>>> all cohousing households at the time. We can extrapolate from what these 
>>> folks said to characterize the whole population (i.e., get numbers), but 
>>> this is the reason you see percentages, not numbers, in our results reports.
>>> >
>>> > What the total number of adults who live in cohousing?  (total number 
>>> > including kids ok, too!)
>>> 
>>> Average household size for our sample was 2.5 persons (including 1.5 
>>> children on average); combine that with our estimated 2,854 and we can 
>>> extrapolate 7,135 persons were living in cohousing in summer of 2012, 
>>> including (more now!). 59% of adults in households represented in our 
>>> survey were female, so extrapolating that...about 4,210 females in 
>>> cohousing in 2012. 
>>> >
>>> > How many people age 65+ live in cohousing?
>>> 
>>> I don't have that exact stat, but here is what I do have:
>>> 
>>> 41% of our sample was 60 or older
>>> 
>>> 45% of our sample was 40-59 years old
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If these percentages represent the population, and I believe they do, that 
>>> would mean approximately 2,925 60+ residents in cohousing in 2012
>>> 
>>> >
>>> > How many are single? (If you went that deep!)
>>> >
>>> Fifty-one percent are married, 23% divorced or separated, 16% single or 
>>> widowed, and 10% in committed long-term relationships...Extrapolated this 
>>> would be about 2,783 single persons in cohousing (more now)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ​Please let me know if I can clarify any of this or provide any further 
>>> assistance.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Angela​
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Angela Sanguinetti, Ph.D.
>>> Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA)
>>> Behavioral Scientist, Consumer Energy Interfaces Lab at UC Davis
>>> Director, Cohousing Research Network
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:27 PM, <zabaldo [at] earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> Angela — whatever you can do to get this info … believe me I”m grateful!   
>>>> Altho’ it will be too late for the immediate need —  believe me I have 
>>>> plenty of other reasons to use it coming up fast.  I appreciate anything 
>>>> you do on this — sorry it is causing you more work!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> THANKS!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best --
>>>> 
>>>> Ann Zabaldo
>>>> Takoma Village Cohousing
>>>> Washington, DC
>>>> Principal, Cohousing Collaborative, LLC
>>>> Falls Church, VA
>>>> 703.688.2646
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Angela Sanguinetti <angelasanguinetti [at] 
>>>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Ann,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have all these data from our 2012 survey, but I can't seem to find 
>>>>> where I did the calculations. I will keep looking and if I can't find 
>>>>> them, I can do them over again. The numbers will be an extrapolation 
>>>>> based on data from our survey of over 500 cohousing residents (their sex 
>>>>> and age, marital status, and sexual orientation) and our address database 
>>>>> (total number of households in cohousing communities in the US at that 
>>>>> time). 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Back in touch soon,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Angela
>>>>> 
>>>>> Angela Sanguinetti, Ph.D.
>>>>> Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA)
>>>>> Behavioral Scientist, Consumer Energy Interfaces Lab at UC Davis
>>>>> Director, Cohousing Research Network
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Ann Zabaldo <zabaldo [at] earthlink.net> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello Angela!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Happy New Year!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have a request.  See below.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you have this data?  Do you know who does?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ann Zabaldo
>>>>>> Takoma Village Cohousing
>>>>>> Washington, DC
>>>>>> Principal, Cohousing Collaborative, LLC
>>>>>> Falls Church, VA
>>>>>> 703.688.2646
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> > Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > From: Ann Zabaldo <zabaldo [at] earthlink.net>
>>>>>> > Subject: Data
>>>>>> > Date: January 3, 2016 at 4:25:03 PM EST
>>>>>> > To: Entin David <davidentin [at] comcast.net>, Diane Margolis <Diane 
>>>>>> > [at] margolis.com>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Hi David and Diane!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Happy New Year!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I’m writing a proposal for the Aging In Community conference in May.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I have the Report on Survey of Cohousing Communities 2011.  I’m 
>>>>>> > needing some data in numbers, not percentages.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Example:  “Most (78%) of the communities have residents between65 and 
>>>>>> > 80 years of age and half have a few residents over age eighty.”
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > What the total number of adults who live in cohousing?  (total number 
>>>>>> > including kids ok, too!)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > How many people age 65+ live in cohousing?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > How many are single? (If you went that deep!)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Do you have this info available?  Do you know where I can get it?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thanks!  Trying to get this done by Tuesday if possible!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Best --
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Ann Zabaldo
>>>>>> > Takoma Village Cohousing
>>>>>> > Washington, DC
>>>>>> > Principal, Cohousing Collaborative, LLC
>>>>>> > Falls Church, VA
>>>>>> > 703.688.2646
>>>>>> >