Re: Question about accepted norms in the common space | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Abe Ross (cohoyotegmail.com) | |
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 10:39:05 -0700 (PDT) |
How do you distinguish between allergies (needs) and preferences (wants)? Abe Ross Treehouse Village Ecohousing Bridgewater, Nova Scotia OK to colour outside the lines occasionally but when you do it consistently you are just sloppy. On 10/22/2020 2:33 PM, Elizabeth Magill wrote:
We have a noise agreement https://mosaic-commons.org/noise developed many years after move-in but it is only about morning, evening, and construction. And a fragrance agreement https://mosaic-commons.org/fragrances that was made before move-in because we have many people allergic to such things. We also chose a gas fireplace to account for the fact that someone (me) is allergic to firewood. But in terms of creating a culture of caring about such things I have to agree with those who have said--you have to ask individuals to stop what they are doing. They don't know they are bothering you unless you tell them. Liz Magill Mosaic Commons Cohousing in Berlin, MA On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 10:29 AM Dick Margulis <dick [at] dmargulis.com> wrote:An additional factor is that in a population of older adults, many people will be somewhat hearing impaired and will also have a diminished sense of smell. (This is in addition to the psychological fact of accommodation that reduces our awareness of the familiar smells of our own households relative to visitors' awareness of them, which affects people of all ages.) So it may just be that people don't realize how loud their tv is, or their phone voice, or their conversational voice, nor how garlicky their food really is. Maybe all that's needed is a polite reminder and a request to close the door. On 10/22/2020 9:49 AM, Sharon Villines via Cohousing-L wrote:We had a person who was very allergic to perfumes, chemicals, etc. plusflowers and pollen. We became very sensitive to this so in general we are careful of these things. And we would be reminded if we forgot.Our design means odors wouldn’t go into the CH if people opened theirdoors; they just dissipate outdoors. And noise is supposed to stay within one’s unit — people are good about turning things down. And others are good at reminding them. Many people are totally unaware of the loudness of their own talking or music. Or unaware that it is intruding on others. You have to speak up. “You seem to be playing music in my bedroom."I would suggest that you have a design problem also. Do your units haveexhaust fans that take odors in the other direction? They may be pulled into the common space by air currents.Explaining the canyon effect to people can help too. We can understandconversations 3 floors down in the piazza for the same reason. And our wings are much farther apart. The people on the first floor had no clue. _________________________________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: http://L.cohousing.org/info
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Question about accepted norms in the common space Ruby Reay, October 20 2020
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Re: Question about accepted norms in the common space Sharon Villines, October 22 2020
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Re: Question about accepted norms in the common space Dick Margulis, October 22 2020
- Re: Question about accepted norms in the common space Elizabeth Magill, October 22 2020
- Re: Question about accepted norms in the common space Abe Ross, October 22 2020
- Re: Question about accepted norms in the common space Elizabeth Magill, October 22 2020
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Re: Question about accepted norms in the common space Dick Margulis, October 22 2020
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Re: Question about accepted norms in the common space Sharon Villines, October 22 2020
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Question about accepted norms in the common space Grace Kim, October 22 2020
- Re: Question about accepted norms in the common space Abe Ross, October 22 2020
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