Re: Tracking Passwords or People with Passwords to Critical Systems
From: Sharon Villines (sharonsharonvillines.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 11:38:45 -0700 (PDT)
Jay, thank you for this response. Excellent solutions.

In the Beginning at Takoma Village, I was the only person who knew how to set 
up YahooGroups lists for teams. Since I was not living in DC yet, it was a good 
way for me to contribute from afar. I set up and managed all our lists for 20 
years. I also became the troubleshooter for all the takomavillage.org 
<http://takomavillage.org/> email accounts and I used my password manager to 
keep passwords for people who forgot them frequently. 

As the requirements for passwords became more and more complex (I have over 400 
unique passwords myself) I began to lose patience with the whole enterprise. I 
was only two steps short of advising everyone to just use “password” until it 
crashed the world and the powers that be set up a better system. And it was not 
just me. When the Board asked the Techpod to set up files to keep all the 
usernames and passwords for all the Association's accounts updated, there was 
great laughter. No one was willing to touch that. 

The Admin team bravely volunteered but they quickly understood how complex this 
was and asked how do we do this?

Jay provides good solutions that everyone should save in case they are needed, 
but this is also something for which we need cohousing expectations. Some of 
the people who have moved in in the last 5-7 years have come from corporate and 
military backgrounds where there are rigid standards for secret storage and 
monthly to weekly changing of passwords. They were appalled at our lax 
standards. One password for the whole community? It hasn’t been changed in 25 
years? You send passwords in emails? Clearly, Neanderthals are in charge here.

It got to the point of expecting that passwords could only be shared in F2F 
communications or by hard copy in sealed envelopes hand-delivered. 

I don’t think we have any members currently who use obviously weak passwords 
and it has been years since we had a member who used their first name—a short 
first name. Hackers used her account to send spam until it closed down our 
whole service, but only twice. Actually, that is good odds for a service that 
was up 24/7 for 20 years—only 2 cases involving password theft.

Aside from financial records from which hackers could steal money, 
corporate/military security complicates community functioning beyond reasoning. 
But what level of security is appropriate for a neighborhood network that is 
sharing recipes for pecan pie, complaints about the dumpster being too tall, 
and whether signs are needed or not?

Sharon
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Sharon Villines
Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC
http://www.takomavillage.org





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