Re: How Diverse is Co-Housing, Really? | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: BARANSKI (BARANSKI![]() |
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Date: Mon, 3 May 93 14:10 CDT |
Because the members of the group can select who will be allowed in, and because in a group that runs by concensus anyone can veto, that guarantees that a cohousing community will be diverse only if the people who start it value diversity. My impression of cohousing was not that you can select who will be allowed in, but more like you can state what values/* you are want in your community, and it was up to the individual applicants to decide whther this was something that they were interested in or not. So maybe I was a bit more worried that about new people coming in and changing everything around then you are. Explictly selecting selecting who to include and who to exclude strikes me as being prone to favoritism, and selfselecting against diversity. In fact, someone was asking recently on a local electronic bulletin board about David Koresh's compound and whether that didn't qualify as cohousing of a sort. I posted a reply admitting there were certain similarities and pointing out the differences (a single person in charge, the collection of automatic weapons, etc). Do weapons make it not qualify as co-housing? It's interesting to me that you bring that up. That was one of the things we were wondering whether we wanted to ban. One person has a couple of firearms. Me being a liberatarian, I believe in the right to bear arms, even though I've never felt the need to have one (with a brain, anything can be a weapon). But I was definitely uncomfortable with the idea of actually having guns around. After wrestling with it for a while, I decided that it's been too long since I've dealt with guns, and what I have is mostly a fear of the unknown. So, I going to reaquaint myself with my friend at a firing range sometime. The other issue was about safety. Having the guns displayed in a glass trophy case, bothered me too. I think of a gun as a tool, and I don't display my tools, such as my framing chisels, eveen though they are beautiful. I'm also worried about a kid or someone else getting ahold of the weapon. I decided I'd feel better if the weapons were locked away out of sight and out of mind, and that it was not common knowledge were they were, or how they were locked up. Of course that makes using them in self-defense in an emergency a problem, but I don't think it will be a real problem. Kathryn McCamant gave a talk here a while back in which a question was posed, regarding the number of non-white residents of cohousing in the United States -- seems there aren't many. McCamant's theory was that (first) cohousing was a mainly upper middle class phenomenon and so there were (as yet) relatively fewer people of other races in a position to look into it, and (second) that cohousing is a way of replacing a feeling of community that other ethnic groups in the U.S. don't feel a need to replace, because they never lost it. Yes, 'lower' class people haven't lost that sense of community as much as the middle class has. Also, for the poor and lower class people, the dream and goal has always been to own your *own* home, your *own* business, have your *own* family. Co-Housing comes along and says 'it's nice to share', and frankly I don't expect people who have not figuratively 'had it all' like the middle class, to understand, or value the concept of so-housing. I certainly don't think low income co-housing will go over big here in the US. Jim.
- Re: Re: How Diverse is Co-Housing, Really?, (continued)
- Re: Re: How Diverse is Co-Housing, Really? apguirard, May 3 1993
- Re: How Diverse is Co-Housing, Really? John Ladwig, May 3 1993
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Re: How Diverse is Co-Housing, Really? BARANSKI, May 3 1993
- Re: Re: How Diverse is Co-Housing, Really? apguirard, May 3 1993
- Re: How Diverse is Co-Housing, Really? BARANSKI, May 3 1993
- Re: How Diverse is Co-Housing, Really? John Ladwig, May 3 1993
- Re: How Diverse is Co-Housing, Really? BARANSKI, May 4 1993
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Re: How Diverse is Co-Housing, Really? Dan Everett, May 4 1993
- Re: How do you deal with resale of units? apguirard, May 4 1993
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