Re: A cohousing consultant and workshop | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Pablo Halpern (phalpern![]() |
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 13:17 CST |
Elise Mattheson writes: > As always, there are different levels of commitment to *being* financially > able to do it, but I've gotten turned off by a certain "smoothie" sort > of approach. Looks alarming, sometimes. I'm all for clumping together > with folks who want to move forward, but I don't think that "why should > affordability be important?" bodes well for the other issues. I mean, > will the word "accessibility" be substituted next? Is my friend who > cannot climb those stairs expendable? [...] > End rant, and I hope I haven't grossly insulted anybody. I know that > we've all got different priorities. It's just that this darned > stubborn Danish-American believes that there's something in > Scandinavian cohousing that we would do well to take a hard look > at; I fear it makes us look, rather deservedly, at the weird ways > Americans act around class and money issues, and wince. Eric Rehm writes: > It's simple...take the profit out of owning a house. By limiting equity, > you don't remove the incentive to improve the house - you'll get a fair > return on your improvements, and you can the value of your investment > with respect to inflation. You just won't be able to mark up your housing. Okay, here's my take on all of this affordability stuff. First, nobody said "why should affordability be important?" Every group I've had contact with felt that affordability is important. The issue comes down to "can we afford to have affordable housing?" Of all of the social goals I've seen cohousing groups struggle with, this has been one of the most difficult to achieve. As others have mentioned, there is no magic to cohousing as far as cost is concerned. Any developer will have the same economies of scale building a standard condo or townhouse developement, maybe even more (because of less diversity of housing). The only potential savings is developer's profit, but this is easily eaten up by the common house as well as development consultants. The inefficiencies of the group process can also cost money. The net result is that most cohosuing is at or close to the market rate for comparable houses in the same geographical area. Now, the only hope of producing housing at substantially below market rate is if someone (government or otherwise) donates land and/or money to the project. Kate McCamant told our group that the average affordable housing project has nine sources of funding. Getting funding alone could delay the project from 2 to 10 years! Understandably, few groups have been willing to take this on in addition to everything else demanded of them. As far as limitted equity goes. It, too, is of little practical value without outside grants. As I already mentioned, the cost of housing for the original residents is likely to be very close the the general market in the area. If residents are forced to sell at below market rate, then affordability is gained at the expense of the founders. Everybody except the founders gets affordable houses and the founders have to foot the bill. After 3-5 years of toil, I don't want to be financially penalized, as well! Does this mean that it's okay for people to realize obscene profits from their cohousing units? No, but I don't really see that happening. I don't know what the house in Windlow cost originally, so I don't know if an obscene profit is being made. Limitted equity based on housing market averages might be reasonable scheme, but in most cases, I don't think it will make much difference. At the risk of wearing out a phrase, "when cohousing becomes more accepted," government agencies and others may be willing to contribute to the construction of affordable cohousing communities. -- Pablo ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pablo Halpern phalpern [at] world.std.com (508) 435-5274 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Why not?, (continued)
- Why not? Jerry Callen, November 12 1993
- Re: A cohousing consultant and workshop Martin Schafer, November 12 1993
- RE: A cohousing consultant and workshop BARANSKI, November 15 1993
- Re: A cohousing consultant and workshop Pablo Halpern, November 17 1993
- Re: A cohousing consultant and workshop Pablo Halpern, November 17 1993
- Re: A cohousing consultant and workshop Martin Schafer, November 18 1993
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