Re: CoHo Partnerships and taxes | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Jim Snyder-Grant (Jim_Snyder-Grant.LOTUS![]() |
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 94 16:14 CST |
(Disclaimers here about how I am not a lawyer or an accountant: I just have to talk to them as part of my role on the New View legal & steering committees). More on Mass taxes: There is still a minimum corporate tax of $456 (it's technically the minimum sales tax.). My understanding is that this will apply to Cornerstone if they become a corporation (filed as for-profit or nonprofit). They could avoid it if they were also granted tax-exempt status by the IRS, but we looked into if we could qualify, and our lawyer didn't see a reasonable strategy for this. (Profit Vs nonprofit status in Mass is mostly a matter of filing requirements & filing fees, plus a modicum of protection against the maximum amount you can be sued for in certain cases: 'Nonprofit' doesn't imply 'tax-exempt'. tax-exempt is harder to get.). New View treats the dues & assessments as income for tax purposes, and tries to be careful about spending down to near 0 by the end of the tax year. We have had specific payments by members in to a land fund, backed by promissory notes of the corporation, that are treated as loans. The interest is due when the loan is paid back - for most people this will be at house-closing time - and our accountant assures us that in this case the tax won't be due on that interest until the interest is paid. The assessments -- which ran near an average of $1500/month during the heavy months before our construction loan & land closing -- are in effect loans, since we will be giving house discounts to match assessments plus interest, but are apparently not quite treatable as loans for tax purposes. I'm not sure why our accountant pursued this more conservative route. It could be because the interest is contingent: if people leave the group, they eventually get their money back, but no interest. There is no formal promissory note for assessments: instead, the interest arrangement, including the contingencies, is laid out in the corporate papers. In the earlier days, we also collected $1000/person for an earnest fund, with the theory that we would wave the money at bankers and impress them, or some such, and that people would be 'more committed' if they had money in. It turned out that banks didn't care, and that by the time we got into the serious stage where commitment was financially critical, the assessments & minimum land fund payments were soon dwarfing the earnest money fund. Our $40 quarterly dues are treated as pure income. We decided not to be a partnership, but instead be a corporation, so as to develop some degree of legal protection for members for any potential stupid but not fraudulent acts of the corporation. (Corporate status doesn't protect against fraud). We didn't do this right away: we did this as preparation for signing scary-looking contracts with consultants, builders, etc. These are all signed in the corporate name. -Jim_Snyder-Grant [at] lotus.crd.com
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CoHo Partnerships and taxes David G Adams, December 5 1994
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- Re: CoHo Partnerships and taxes David G Adams, December 12 1994
- Re: CoHo Partnerships and taxes Jim Snyder-Grant, December 12 1994
- Re: CoHo Partnerships and taxes Rob Sandelin, December 13 1994
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