Re: Consensus and inclusion (FWD) | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Kevin Wolf (kjwolf![]() |
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Date: Sat, 14 Jan 95 17:07 CST |
I think the discussion below is excellent and worthy of sharing with others interested in consensus decision making. I would like to know the protocal for this to be forwarded to other lists, and for it to be shared through other means. I teach consensus facilitation and would like to share this in hard copy with my classes. I assume the proper netiquette would be to ask the two writers directly and if they gave permission then it was ok. Does anyone have a differing answer? And, may I have permission to share this to a wider audiance Rob and Martin? Thank you. Kevin Wolf kjwolf [at] wheel.ucdavis.edu N Street Co-housing, Davis CA On Fri, 13 Jan 1995, Fred H Olson WB0YQM wrote: > Martin Tracy MTRACY [at] IX.NETCOM.COM is the author of this message but > due to a listserv problem it was posted by the COHOUSING-L sysop. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Rob Sandelin writes about the consensus process: > > >There is an interesting process issue developing within my community > >which I would like to pass around to those of you doing consensus > >decision making. At Sharingwood we have always operated by the idea > >that if you do not attend a meeting where a decision is made, unless > >you give your voice to another member, you give up your opportunity to > >be a part of the decision. > > I have been involved in a consensus-based committee which has met > regularly for five years. During those years, we evolved the following > rules about absentee members: > > First of all, we understand that consensus decision is about <change> > and not about the body of agreement which has already been forged, > sometimes with great effort. To alter this body of agreement, a meeting > <must> have a quorum. 5 people who achieve consensus cannot and should > not make any binding agreements on the 30 who are not present. Great > effort should be taken before a meeting to ensure that there is a > quorum. This is the responsibility of the facilitator/coordinator/chair > of that meeting. > > If a quorum is not present, you can still have a discussion, or a party! > > The first rule we passed is that members not present in the room do not > count for quorum. Only warm bodies count. With comings and goings, we > were accustomed to taking a quorum count before almost every decision. > > Secondly, a member not present at a meeting can submit a position paper, > but cannot participate in the decision process at that meeting. We took > great care to inform members about the upcoming issues, and we typically > read two or three position papers out loud from absentee members. > Positions with reasonably compelling arguments found champions among > those present. If not, tough luck! Members who are not present for the > discussion cannot possible make an "informed" decision, even if they > call in by phone from time to time (we tried that). > > >Consensus on the other hand is where the full acceptance of a decision > >of every member is required and needed in order to move on the > >decision. One of the things which has surfaced now a couple of times > >is that members who were NOT at a meeting where a decision was made, > >later had a problem with the decision and we had to go back and deal > >with it, either in person with the individual or at a meeting. We > >publish decisions to be made at the meetings in the newsletter or in a > >handout which is distributed to everyone so members know in advance > >what is being decided at a meeting. Our process is assuming that people > >not attending the meeting know about and are in agreement with the > >decision. > > Thirdly, if a consensus was reached by those present, then the decision > was added to the body of agreement. Those not present who later > disagreed with that decision were entitled to ask to change the body of > agreement at a future meeting. This request became a new proposal, > subject, like all others, to the normal consensus process. > > >I am beginning to think that when members are not present at a meeting > >where a consensus decision is reached by those present, that they > >should be personally contacted and asked if they also "do not have an > >unacceptable level of conflict" to use the Sharingwood jargon, before > >we determine that we have reached consensus. > > IMHO, no! No amount of explanation can convey to them the sense of the > meeting: body language, stress level, eye contact, subtle arguments, > sarcasm, etc. etc. Whoever contacts them will be a filter full of > personal biases, some well-hidden. > > >Or to put this another way if 5 people out of 23 show up for a meeting > >and make a consensus decision, is it really a consensus decision? I > >would say Clearly not. OK, now roll the numbers the other way, if 18 > >people out of 23 show up for a meeting and make a consensus decision > >is it really a consensus decision? If you say yes in the second case - > >why? > > 5 out of 23 = no quorum = no consensus. 18 out of 23 (assuming this is > a quorum) = consensus. Why? Because a <community> is present. Because > unless a member has been physically hauled away, his presence at that > meeting to participate in that decision is part of the consensus > process! If the decision is that important to him, he will be there. > Or his position paper will speak for him, and like-minded neighbors will > champion him. Because it is so damn rare for <every> member to be at a > meeting. > > >If we move ahead without the full participation of EVERYONE, in the > >name of efficiency, is it consensus or is it a majority vote disguised > >as consensus? What if someone is pissed off about the issue and > >doesn't attend the meeting because they are feeling pissed off and > >disfranchised? Is it still consensus? Yikes, look at all those worms > >squirming in the can! > > Consensus is about decision agreement, not agreeable decisions. If one > of your members is sulking, he misses out on the decision because he > has, in a sense, withdrawn from the community. Hope this helps. > > PS This makes it tough on out-of-state members, but c'est la guerre! > > -- > Martin Tracy > mtracy [at] ix.netcom.com > > --- Kevin Wolf 724 N St Davis, CA 95616 phone and fax: 916-758-4211
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Re: Consensus and inclusion (FWD) Fred H Olson WB0YQM, January 13 1995
- Re: Consensus and inclusion (FWD) Kevin Wolf, January 14 1995
- Re: Consensus and inclusion (FWD) Martin Tracy, January 18 1995
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