RE: Is Affordability Wanted? | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Rob Sandelin (robsan![]() |
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 95 12:02 CDT |
Harry Pasternak Asked: * Or is this "cohousing" phenomenon in North America being taken out of context, with homes primarily being developed for the former "yuppie" market?---rather than the lower/middle income and middle income families, that the vast majority of the collaborative/cooperative/cohousing homes in Europe, have been developed for, over the past thirty years? In my viewpoint, the answer to this is essentially yes. Privately owned, multimillion dollar cohousing developments require upper middle class incomes or assets. In order to afford the kind of mortgages that have been created, you have to have considerable income. One of the key elements which I think separates most other forms of intentional communities and cohousing is that cohousers demand private ownership and hire other people to work for them. We hire architects, designers, consultants of all sorts, contractors and carpenters etc. It is not typical for a cohouser to have built their own house, although this does happen in some places. For example at Sharingwood, a lot in phase 2 costs $35,000. If you built a 1200 square foot house yourself at $40 a square foot (which is not unreasonable at all for build it yourself in our area) you have spent $83,000. Using the 2.5 income rule, and assuming $5,000 down, you would need to make $31,200 a year to qualify for a mortgage on $78,000, a sum which excludes about 80% of the teachers in the State of Washington. The median teacher salary in the State of Washington is $26K a year. (I keep using teachers as an example cause I used to be one, and left because I wanted to be a home owner, amoung other things) So, in my opinion, home ownership is difficult at best unless you make an income of at least $30,000 a year. I just got the real estate stats for my area, the average selling price of a house in my area has gone to $289,000. !!!!!! The average income of the Love Isreal family, a local communal farm intentional community, is $2200. They live very simply, in very small and to "normal" standards, pretty funky places. There is no mortgage, no debt, little stress, lots of love and community. Every thing they have, which is really quite impressive, they have done themselves, with their own labors, their own hands, their own hearts. I asked a person there once where she lived and she swept her arm indicated the whole place and said, I live here. I sleep in that (very small cabin) place there. If you want to live cheaply, my opinion is to abandon cohousing/ private ownership and pool your resources with others in a coop or communal way. You will get much much more for your money. Rob Sandelin Sharingwood
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