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From: Harry Pasternak (Harry_Pasternak![]() |
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Date: 01 Aug 1995 16:18:28 GMT |
Rob In response to your comments: "One thing which I will add to this is that front porches and such things in of themselves have little value as social places if you have nothing in common to talk about and have no social inclination." " So now the question is raised, what makes people anti-social? Is it simply the lack of designed socializing spaces? I doubt it." There used to be a mythology in Denmark that the Danes were "cold", individualistic and anti-social and not really interested in socializing with neighbors. Then in the early seventies, an open competition was held for building an entire community. A panel of citizens chose the winner from hundreds of entries. The chosen design had been designed by a group of students studying landscaping! The student's design was built (as designed). This community contained clusters of neighborhoods. Each neighborhood: - Had a common parking area away from the homes. - Had pedestrian walkways about eight foot wide going to and through the neighborhood. - The walkways were covered by "trellises" as the walkways threaded there way through the homes. The trellis extended from the walkways to the front of the homes. - The homes were single storey with a front garden less than 10 foot deep. - A "Dutch" door was the front door. The door had glass in it. - The kitchen windows faced the walkway. - Each home had a fenced back yard. - At the "end" of the walkway was a open space. - A "common" house was located in the open space. - Money was set aside for each neighborhood to build additional shared facilities. Each neighborhood would decide after they moved in, the facility to be built. The people moving in, were selected randomly; there were just on a waiting list for a home to be built nowhere in particular. Consequently, their incomes varied, had differing values, varied in age etc. etc. ---truly a random selection. Within a year, Danes in that region, looking for housing went on a waiting list just for the above community refusing housing in communities built next to the student designed community. In addition, Danes living in adjacent communities wanted to move out and also went on the waiting list. Why? Despite the commonly mythology held by the Danes themselves, that they were anti-social, cold, aloof and individualistic---the Danes living in the student designed neighborhoods were socializing on a level that would make the inhabitants of any recent cohousing neighborhood, proud of themselves. Extensive studies were carried out comparing the Danes living in these neighborhoods with other neighborhoods in the region--- the results were overwhelming---the design of the homes and neighborhoods was the only variable that differed between the two types of neighborhoods. Yet one neighborhood had a lot socializing, cooperative projects, abundant gardens---while the comparative neighborhoods were traditionally "Danish" when it came to social interaction. Rob, with respect to your feelings that: " I am free wheeling a thesis here that the American consumer society is geared to anti-social behavior and its success is dependent upon anti-social behavior. " I believe that the reverse is true---that we are all born in a Golden Glow of Goodness, and continue to maintain that Golden Glow of Goodness. That despite the efforts of the Ruling Class and sometimes our dysfunctional families, we still have this Golden Glow of Goodness--although from time to time we may become inundated by the Ruling Class's efforts and some some of the crap from our dysfunctional families--we generally survive and continue, looking for peoples and communites that nuture this Golden Glow rather than trying to destroy it. I believe that if you read any of your history books, visit voluntary organizations ( the real ones--not the money grubbing fakes), visit any corporation that is surviving in the 90's (unless they have a monopoly) such as Harley bike factory, visit any good school and you will find groups of people successfully working cooperatively. Harry - via BulkRate 2.0
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Front Porches & Community Building Harry Pasternak, July 31 1995
- RE: Front Porches & Community Building Rob Sandelin, July 31 1995
- Re: Re: Front Porches & Community Building Harry Pasternak, August 1 1995
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