Re: Sustainable ag and cohousing | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Joel Woodhull (jwoodhull![]() |
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 17:05:18 -0500 |
King Collins asks >Are you saying that you want to strengthen the separation >between community and farm? Or is it that zoning laws make it >difficult to do both together? Clearly agribus with heavy >chemicals and massive equipment is inappropriate, but light, >labor intensive garden farms would mix, would they not? Yes, most definitely the farm should be physically separate from the community that is primarily non-farm, because residential communities have a lot of reasons for being relatively high density, and farms are necessarily very low density. It is the attempt to do both in one place that perpetuates the mischief of suburban sprawl. Everyone with their own half acre is a way to achieve neither country living nor urban access efficiency. On the other hand, it is clearly beneficial to have food growing in close proximity to everyone. The idea of the urban-rural dipole is analogous to a dipole in physics, where the strength of the dipole is a function of both the intensity of the poles and of their closeness to each other. The idea would be to have the light, labor intensive garden farms as close to the urban concentration as possible. In the case of Sebastopol, any point in the town is less than a mile from the town edge. The town is surrounded by beautiful countryside, but the tendency for people to carve little estates out of it was gradually eliminating "country" for all. Fortunately, rules were put in place to make that more difficult, while directing development into the towns. Unfortunately, the towns are still resistent to the kinds of densities that make the overall scheme work out. I like to compare the Netherlands with Los Angeles County. They both have the same overall density, but within them they are entirely different. The Netherlands is a collection of relatively high density urban nodes (with few tall buildings) and a great deal of countryside and agriculture. It is easy to get around by rail and bike and bus, and to get into the countryside and enjoy it. Along the rail lines are many small family gardens, and one frequently sees that the gardeners got there via bicycle. There are relatively few significant gardens on residence parcels however. >Doesn't this model also include some industrial projects mixed >with the rural and residential, so that communities can contain >workshops, retail stores, garden/farms, and residences, all >within walking distance? (Disruptive, noisy or harmful projects >would be placed elsewhere) Most everything else that is not land intensive should be mixed, such as workshops, stores and residences. One of the shortcomings of cohousing so far, which has been mentioned on this list, is that they are perhaps too exclusively residential enclaves, and they tend to be similar in that respect to other auto dependent suburban commuter enclaves. >Could you tell us more about your experience [with CSAs] and >what problems you had, and perhaps how it could be better? Thinking that the CSA would be the ideal for our farm, we joined one as a consumer to learn more about it. Our impression was that it was the place where the products were directed that the stores and the fancy restaurants would not accept. If the farm is not wholly engaged in producing for the subscribing community, this conflict would be very hard to avoid. Also, the all-alike food boxes circumscribe the expression of individual preferences within the same overall production assortment. The free-market mechanism has much to be said for it. The best things going on here in Sonoma County are the efforts to bring consumers and farmers closer together within a local free market -- examples such as the Sonoma County Farm Trails, the farm markets and the Gravenstein Apple Fair in Sebastopol. For our farm, we will want to explore mechanisms for expanded ownership and local labor participation as well as local consumption. Local cohos seem ideally suited for this. Joel Woodhull Sebastopol
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Sustainable ag and cohousing King Collins, August 21 1995
- Re: Sustainable ag and cohousing Tess M Ey, August 21 1995
- Re: Sustainable ag and cohousing Joel Woodhull, August 24 1995
- Re: Sustainable ag and cohousing King Collins, August 25 1995
- Re: Sustainable ag and cohousing Joel Woodhull, August 26 1995
- Re: Sustainable ag and cohousing Shava Nerad, August 28 1995
- Re: Sustainable ag and cohousing Peter Starr, September 4 1995
- Re: Sustainable ag and cohousing Peter Starr, September 4 1995
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