RE: Price increases, sweat equity | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Rob Sandelin (Exchange) (Robsan![]() |
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Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:06:38 -0500 |
I assume you are a capital project model of cohousing, building everything all at once as one large capital project. This means you are probably locked in to a certain level of finish. Have you gotten your bank assessment yet? This can be sort of a nasty little surprise if the bank assessor values your units at less than they actually cost to build. This usually comes very late in the process, right before mortgages. So if your assessor gives you a late surprise, be sure to ask for a reassesment. The trouble with working with banks is they are very fussy about who they give mortgages to, and how much they will loan on a given project. If a bank gets wind that someone borrowed money to make their downpayment, its a bad thing. So, one way to deal with this is to create an underground lending system within your group. If you have folks that can loan money to others for downpayments, do so early, like 4-5 months before the mortgage paperwork gets filled in. Having 5-6 grand suddenly "appear" in a savings account makes banks suspicious and they start asking questions. Finanacial reality of home ownership is kind of grim, you need a good steady income, a pretty huge downpayment in cash (meaning you saved for several years or had some other assets). This is exclusionary, but it is the reality of home ownership. Some people do not have the financial ability to be home owners. Cohousing does not change this, especially the multimillion dollar capital project sorts. Its a bummer to lose people you love. Maybe home sharing can open up some rental spaces? As for sweat equity, use these opportunities to build community. Be sure there are folks doing support work, such as childcare, providing food and drinks, and doing the gopher work, as well as whatever construction you sign up to do. Make it fun, take lots of breaks, squirt each other with hoses, etc. If its really fun and a joy to be with each other (which is really great when it happens) then people will come. If its a tedious drag, an obligation you HAVE to do (Which sweat equity can become very easily) you will need all sorts of accounting and tracking systems to force people to show up and work. Its your project, you can make it what you want. Having a regularily scheduled work party, like every Saturday afternoon is good. And having a posted list of tasks helps people who can't come on Saturday pick up something they can do on Wednesday evening after work. Rob Sandelin Sharingwood Original Message----- Sent: Monday, July 01, 1996 4:43 PM Subject: Price increases, sweat equity Hello all, Originally we estimated our prices about a year ago, as best we could at the time, warning that they were estimates only. Now we are approaching construction and it is clear that our updated estimates will be higher now for a variety of reasons. Soon we will have bids from contractors and arrangements with lenders and we can give final prices. We have some sense of how much increase people can handle and how much would mean losing people who have worked hard and long for this; of course we don't want that to happen. So we are looking carefully at how to keep our budget within bounds, what we can cut without compromising important design elements, and what to do about the inevitable increases in prices and their effect on a few people who might be closer to the edge financially than others. One idea from several members is to take on some fairly big projects as sweat equity: fencing around the perimeter and for privacy between parking and some dwellings; finishing parts of the common house that don't have to be finished at first; a pedestrian bridge across a wooded ravine connecting some homes to common house; of course a lot of landscaping including paths, plantings, etc. Listening to CoHousing voices of experience, we are very leary of counting on sweat equity for anything that has to be done for our Certificates of Occupancy. Even beyond that, we are wondering how much is realistic given jobs, families, moving-in exhaustion, and just general maintenance required for a community like this. We try to have some idea how much time we each will put in once we are all living here, and yet we know it will be so different than what we are able to imagine now that it is hard to say with any certainty. I am wondering about other groups' experiences with price increases. How have you handled them? Have you found ways to help members who can't manage the increases on their own? And how much sweat equity is just right, how much is overload? Please reply to me or to the CoHousing List, whichever you prefer. In advance, I appreciate your ideas and suggestions. -- Elana Kahn, for Westwood CoHousing Community
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Price increases, sweat equity ElanaKahn, July 1 1996
- Re: Price increases, sweat equity ian_hig, July 1 1996
- RE: Price increases, sweat equity Rob Sandelin (Exchange), July 2 1996
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