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From: Sharon Villines (sharonvillines![]() |
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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 11:28:26 -0600 (MDT) |
I initially posted the question about people's associations with the phrase "like-minded people" because it is a phrase that I find very painful to hear or read. Since I see it most often in cohousing contexts or in conservative political forums, I wanted to know if cohousing people had forgotten that this phrase was used to enforce segregation or is currently used to tag conservatives for each other. It was not a question about what words should mean or could mean, or what words are, although those responses were very good ones from the very bright folks on this list. I particularly liked the ones which suggested that the best way to deal with negative terms is to take them over and change the meaning, and those that questioned "Who would want to live with like-minded people anyway?" The question was directly related to a posting on a cohousing web site (and previous postings on other cohousing web sites) that a person's desire to live in cohousing was because he or she was looking forward to living with "like-minded people." Some have invited others to join if they were "like-minded." My intention was two-fold: 1) to find out how widely the exclusionary meaning exists, and 2) to alert people that this is a loaded phrase that (for at least some people) is _more_ painful than "no niggers"--a phrase that none of us would allow to be posted on any of our websites. "No niggers" is accepted as so obviously stupid that it rarely appears anywhere--I think those were "taking it over" have even given it up. "Like-minded" is more subtle and thus much harder to defend against -- for those to whom it has painful associations. What I discovered from my post to Cohousing-L and the Takoma Village list, is that this phrase does have painful meanings to more than just me, but these are not widely shared. Many seem to be unaware of them. At least some of the people for whom this is a painful phrase heard it used in contexts where the conservative rich were concerned with their exclusivity. Thus the exclusionary use of "like-minded" may also have class-connotations which results in its not being as well-known to the middle classes. I learned it by over-hearing it as a servant (since servants are, at best, invisible) in rooms dripping with diamonds. "Like-minded" may be one of those phrases that bond the "bottom to the top" missing the whole in between. When writing bios for websites or using them in literature that is intended to communicate an image to the general public, it is important to be aware of meanings and shades of meanings of various words and phrases. Thus, my point is that co-housers should be aware that this is not a neutral phrase to at least some people and you may want to avoid it unless you are directly addressing someone who shares "your" meaning of the phrase. Sharon -- Sharon Villines, Editor The MacGuffin Guide to Detective Fiction http://www.macguffin.net Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington, DC http://www.takomavillage.org
- RE: "Like Minded People", (continued)
- RE: "Like Minded People" Meg Justus, July 12 2000
- Re: "Like Minded People" Kay Argyle, July 14 2000
- Re: "Like Minded People" Stuart Staniford, July 14 2000
- Re: "Like Minded People" Hans Tilstra, July 16 2000
- "Like Minded People" Sharon Villines, July 16 2000
- Re: "Like Minded People" Robyn Williams, July 16 2000
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