Re: Re: Do you have TV in the common house? | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Robyn Williams (pov![]() |
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Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:30:04 -0700 (MST) |
> What works for me is that is laid out as a guideline not a strict policy > that would call for enforcement. But it does show an intent that gives some > re-assurance to certain members who have a fear of the common house > environment being dominated by constant TV watching and a culture where > people (especially not kids) are always drawn in front of the TV. If it's meant to be a guideline, then make it that, not a prescriptive rule. While you may see it as an intention, my guess is that the anti-TV people see it as law. A guideline needs too offer reassurance to those who have "a fear ... dominated by constant TV watching ...", and like it says, it's a fear; it hasn't actually happened. However they do need some way to address it that is supported by everyone. This goes for all manner of agreements. In this case, if the fear is realised, will it just result in people bickering about times/hours a week again? (I told you it wouldn't work, etc) I'd prefer mechanisms to address the situation if it arises that works for everyone. And doesn't need 'policing'. This is the thing that's really hit home for me over the last year. Most of us come from such a competitive and fear based western culture where rules/punishment/reward is the way that we are used to being controlled even when most are reasonably benign. The fact that we aspire to live co-operatively is terrific but challenging. It's clear to me now why we struggle with consensus as a concept. We have little practice, we miss the point. Typically, a possible solution is leapt on and debated. Often, little or no time is spent on exploring the intention and other possibilities. What would happen if you, in this example, backed up from the 'times/week' solution and arrived at a principle that satisfied all concerned and offered examples as a measure. Eg, someone mentioned 'meetings have priority over TV watching'. I might add that I'm the person in my community who promoted the removal of the TV from our common. (It arrived with the summer Olympics and stayed - no rules or guidelines.) It did become a magnet to the kids including mine. Unsupervised. It's blaring affected me in my home. The room was left in a mess. I cleaned it up to set an example but the attitude of the viewers, including some adults, when asked to help tidy up, or turn the box down/off, was unpleasant. (It's not rules that's an issue at our place, we have the opposite side of rule making: the tyranny of structuralisms.) However, I'll be happy to have it there for all the beneficial reasons when we can create some principles and clear guidelines that preserve the rights of all concerned. In the meantime, our own big TV is popular for watching special programmes and I enjoy people visiting. Warm regards Robyn Williams Pinakarri Community _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.communityforum.net/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l
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