Re: Re: gradient line from public to private (was, common house tensions to resolve) | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Jock Coats (jock.coats![]() |
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Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 07:35:02 -0600 (MDT) |
Newbie to the list making my first posting here! I'm following this
conversation with interest. Here in Oxford England I am trying to get
some interest going in co-housing. We potentially have a plot of land
available and a social landlord who may be able to fund some of the
development for affordable housing alongside some paying for outright
ownership and so on.
It is possible that we can persuade the city council to throw in the land and buildings of a pretty run down existing community centre in return for using some of the land value to finance rebuilding, and I was thinking perhaps of incorporating this into the whole development as a sort of stages progress from public realm into progressively more private realm of the co-housing complex.
And it strikes me that in this analysis below, both the public community centre and the cohousing common house actually fit somewhere in Chermayeff and Alexander's category 3. 'Group private'. I was imagining, however, a spatial boundary as well as an administrative one - the 'community centre' would still be run by a local community association (still be a venue for weightwatchers and the parish council, youth groups and a polling booth), the common house, obviously, by the members of the co-housing community alone.
What do people think - is this blurring the lines too much? I think it would help to settle the co-housing project into the community a bit more. I read of some suspicion over co-housing from planners and neighbours for example and if it's all part of a gradual movement from public/community via private/community to private/family it might help to ease those fears.
Jock 1st step co-housing participant (pre-planning stage), Oxford, England. Hans Tilstra wrote:
To use the common house for public functions or not .... According to Serge Chermayeff and Christopher Alexander (of Pattern Language fame), spaces or realms for community and privacy can be broken into six domains. 6. Urban-Public The places and facilities in public ownership: highways, roads, paths, civic parks. 5. Urban-Semi-public The special areas of public use under government and institutional controls: city halls, courts of justice, public schools, post offices, hospitals, transportation exchanges, parking lots, garages, service stations, stadia, theaters. 4. Group-Public The meeting ground between public services and utilities and private property requiring joint access and responsibility: places requiring mail delivery, garbage collection, utilities control, access to fire-fighting equipment or other emergency rescue devices. 3. Group-Private Various secondary areas under control of management acting on behalf of private or public interest for the benefit of tenants or other legal occupants: reception, circulation, and service spaces; community gardens; playgrounds; laundries; storage; etc. 2. Family-Private The spaces within the private domain controlled by a single family that are devoted to communal family activities such as eating, entertainment, hygiene, and maintenance. 1. Individual-Private The "room of one's own," the innermost sanctum to which individuals may withdraw from their family. Cohousing strikes me as using these six gradients very deliberately and thoughtfully. Hence, when the discussion of the group involves these gradients, perhaps a discussion should take place to aspire towards defining these boundaries. Hans Tilstra http://home.vicnet.net.au/~cohouse In Melbourne, where http://www.merricohousing.org 's preferred land is under threat of being used for ordinary housing instead. Major set back... _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.communityforum.net/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l
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Re: gradient line from public to private (was, common house tensions to resolve) Hans Tilstra, June 16 2002
- Re: Re: gradient line from public to private (was, common house tensions to resolve) Jock Coats, June 17 2002
- Re: Re: gradient line from public to private (was, common house tensions to resolve) Sharon Villines, June 17 2002
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