Re: [C-L] Diversity in Cohousing | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Howard Landman (howard![]() |
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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:21:02 -0600 (MDT) |
> I wonder if any cohousing community has experienced any of the problems > described in this thread. Yes, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered jumping in. > I would suggest that people relate > actual experiences in building a diverse cohousing community rather than > these very imaginative hypothetical cases. OK. (Some of the things below I have mentioned before. I apologize in advance for the repitition, but apparently it's necessary.) Experience 1: When I first started looking into cohousing, I was in a family of 3 adults and 3 children. There was no unit planned at Riverrock that could have contained us. Why not? I believe all of the following had some effect: - "Involuntary simplicity". Many people in cohousing are proponents of voluntary simplicity, and design towards the theoretical ideal of people who have few possessions and need little space. At River Rock, this showed up in many ways, including garages that were one full foot narrower than standard (as if cars could be wished smaller!), a rather lean amount of built-in storage, etc. But the actual people who move in may not fit that theoretical model. - Bias against large families. Some people in cohousing believe that people should not have large families. Therefore they seem to design out such people, effectively making it impossible for them to live in coho. At River Rock, one family of 2 adults + 2 kids + 1 very large dog dropped out because they felt there was nothing to fit them. And I think they were right - there wasn't. - Desire to keep the number of different unit types small to avoid extra architect's fees. Since most developments typically sell more of the smaller units, the fees are harder to amortize on larger units, meaning they either are less profitable or must be made relatively more expensive. - "Enforced egalitarianism". Making the variation in unit size narrow is perceived as a way of enforcing that "we're all equal here", even though it doesn't really do that. Anyway, I had to put deposits on 2 units in order to have enough space. The only thing that prevented us from actually buying the second unit was a timely (?!) divorce that reduced us to 2 adults and 3 part-time children. Experience 2: Our common house basement is not finished. We would like to finish it but it will cost about $75,000 dollars. One way of handling this would be to simply assess each of the 34 households $2206 (or more likely assess larger households more and smaller households less), but we can't do this because some people simply "can't afford it". Note that this isn't an expense but a capital investment - the community will be worth that much more, so presumably the value of each unit will increase by roughly the amount invested. For myself, I therefore wouldn't see too much difference between having $2000 in a bank account and having it invested in the common house. But others see it differently. Anyway, it would not be completely unfair to say that progress on this issue is being blocked by those who are unwilling or unable to make that kind of an investment in their community. (It would be slightly unfair - our discussions on this issue are more complex than I can really explain here, and various options such as trading work for monetary contributions have been left out.) We have a consensed community value that we want to "finish off" River Rock within 5 years, but the expenditure levels needed to do that appear impossible to achieve. We, collectively, say we want something but are unwilling to pay for it. That's a pretty juvenile attitude, if you ask me. I'd like to find a way to move beyond it. I believe that any cohousing group which includes low-income persons is likely to run into this problem. My advice to you would be: make sure EVERYTHING is completed before move-in, or you could be waiting for years to do any major capital improvements. Howard A. Landman who is expressing his own opinion and not that of anyone else at River Rock Commons Fort Collins CO _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.communityforum.net/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l
- Re: Re: [C-L] Diversity in Cohousing, (continued)
- Re: Re: [C-L] Diversity in Cohousing Grace Horowitz, June 28 2002
- Re: Re: [C-L] Diversity in Cohousing Sharon Villines, June 28 2002
- Re: Re: [C-L] Diversity in Cohousing Amy Cervantes, July 6 2002
- Re: [C-L] Diversity in Cohousing Racheli Gai, June 28 2002
- Re: [C-L] Diversity in Cohousing Howard Landman, June 28 2002
- Re: Re: [C-L] Diversity in Cohousing Martie Weatherly, June 29 2002
- Re: Re: [C-L] Diversity in Cohousing Cheryl A. Charis-Graves, June 29 2002
- Re: Re: [C-L] Diversity in Cohousing Sharon Villines, June 29 2002
- Re: Re: [C-L] Diversity in Cohousing Sharon Villines, June 29 2002
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