Re: guns and cigarettes
From: Elizabeth Stevenson (tamgoddessattbi.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:12:01 -0700 (MST)
Because we like them and they are hopelessly addicted to something they know
is bad for them. It's not so simple a thing as whether it's right or wrong.
It's a delicate social balance.

For me, it seems reasonable to allow smoking outdoors, especially if it's
only an occasional nuisance. Smoking for some people is not a choice.

Oh, jeez, here I go again.

Shut up, Liz! 


-- 
Liz Stevenson
Southside Park Cohousing
Sacramento, California
tamgoddess [at] attbi.com
> From: Meg Palley <megp [at] lawpal.com>
> Reply-To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:53:08 -0800
> To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_guns and cigarettes
> 
> I share Racheli Gai"s views abaout guns in the project, for the same
> reasons.  I dislike smoking in areas where I breathe though I claim no
> allergies.  Why watch people destsroying themselves by poluting our ailr
> and theirs?  Meg Palley.
> 
> Racheli Gai wrote:
> 
>> I guess I'm ready to own up to a bias and say that sharing
>> a community with NRA members would not be my idea of fun.
>> While such people belong the human race (not a compliment
>> these days), I don't see that allowing people to have
>> different ideas and life styles necessarily mean
>> wishing to share a community with them.
>> As to gun ownership - I don't know if we have anyone with
>> guns in Sonora Cohousing.  I hope not, and perhaps this will
>> come up in January, when we work on defining our values
>> with Tree.  I'd just say that in a community where there are
>> kids all around, and where they get into different houses
>> (not always when invited), for someone to have guns lying
>> about can prove deadly.
>> 
>> Regarding smoking - we have one full-fledged smoker, and
>> a few semi-closeted ones...  While smoke bothers me
>> even outdoors (I have bad allergies and multiple chemical
>> sensitivies)- I never felt comfortable asking someone not
>> to smoke outdoors.  I guess I assume that my need for air
>> isn't any more urgent than their need to keep their addiction alive :).
>> What I really mean is: I know that addictions can be very hard to kick,
>> and don't want to make anyone's
>> life too difficult.
>> R.
>> 
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