Re: Re: Cohousing appraisals | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Raines Cohen (rc2-coho-L![]() |
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 12:23:02 -0700 (MST) |
On 1/10/03 10:28 AM, Marty Roberts <MartyR [at] sonic.net> wrote: >It also says to me that cohousing in the Bay area is only for the rich >- or those lucky enough to have gotten into the Bay area market years >ago. No, not necessarily - what it means is that there are greater incentives to get involved at the beginning and create a new project, where the key factor in prices can be construction costs rather than "the market". There are also lots of creative approaches people are taking to "get beyond the market" in creating oportunities for affordability. A few examples that I know of: - Here at Swan's, original purchase prices were much lower: when we bought in 2000, we paid more or less 1999 market rates, in an area that has rapidly changed in perception in the past few years, in part as a result of our being here. There are several first-time homebuyers here who qualified for and received federal tax credits through a city program, to help them afford mortgages (the credits phase in over five years and get repaid if the owner resells during that time). The group, by working with a nonprofit developer creating a mixed-use project with city assistance, got some economies of scale and kept construction costs down -- at a time when regional construction costs overall were going up by as much as 25% in a QUARTER! This process minimized initial membership costs; we also built in flex on our capital investment in the project, with some members contributing more than 10% of their expected unit prices and others less. Today, One member is renting out two rooms in a unit in addition to living there, both to offset mortgage costs and to help provide housing for those who might not otherwise be able to afford it. - At Mariposa Grove, across town, one member bought several rundown buildings cheap and got real "sweat equity" (not just the theoretical kind) in having community members who might not otherwise be able to afford buying into coho fix up each other's units and increase the capacity of the project. They're likely to become a limited-equity co-op, rather than condo, because a couple of members have no credit history or a recent bankruptcy. - At Temescal Commons, also in Oakland, a church group developed the project with an affordable unit built in. At least one member owns a building adjacent to the project and rents out rooms within it to participants. - At Temescal Creek, a retrofit project, several people rent within the project; at least one member was able to buy in through a family member's credit, while continuing to live a life of "voluntary simplicity". - East Bay Cohousing core groups (especially an active "Coho with a Clubhouse" group recently) are looking at creating a project as part of a larger "transit village" development, and integrating a mix of affordable and rental units. - Berkeley Cohousing got a law passed specifically providing communities with an alternative to paying for replacement of rental housing they take off the market: they are a "limited-equity condo", with prices (for the first 30 years) set by formula based on area median income and eligibility for purchase determined similarly. There are a few renters of units and rooms in units rented out. Some of these techniques do have drawbacks, including removing not only the cost to get in but also the OPPORTUNITY to resell at a profit and "move up" to other housing... which, for many Americans, is seen as the road for individual/family economic progress. In other cases, by abandoning the conventional home purchase/finance structure, we cut out access to the low-downpayment easy-credit financing model that goes with it. The market is a tool, with particular costs and benefits associated with using it... and remember that what goes up, does come down, as Doyle Street coho (Emeryville, CA) found during the early-1990s real estate bust that hit near its completion and kept it from filling for a while. So please don't assume that everybody here is rich (at a technology tradeshow in SF this week, at least 3/4 of the people I'm talking to are out of work), or that Cohousing in any particular place is forever out of your reach... to paraphrase Scoop Nisker, "If you don't like Cohousing prices, go out and make some of your own!" Raines Raines Cohen <my initials,2,dash,coho,dash,L at my first name .com> Member, Swan's Market Coho [Oakland, CA] <http://www.swansway.com/> Where we're assembling new Ikea chairs for the Common House. Facilitator, East Bay Cohousing [on hiatus] <http://www.ebcoho.org/> About to announce the next "Coho with a Clubhouse" meeting. Boardmember, The Cohousing Network <http://www.cohousing.org/> Thanking all the members and contributors in 2002! _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L
- RE: Cohousing Appraisals, (continued)
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RE: Cohousing Appraisals Rob Sandelin, January 9 2003
- Re: Cohousing Appraisals Elizabeth Stevenson, January 9 2003
- RE: Cohousing Appraisals Joani Blank, January 9 2003
- Re: Cohousing appraisals Marty Roberts, January 10 2003
- Re: Re: Cohousing appraisals Raines Cohen, January 10 2003
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RE: Re: Cohousing appraisals Rob Sandelin, January 11 2003
- Re: Re: Cohousing appraisals Sharon Villines, January 11 2003
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RE: Cohousing Appraisals Rob Sandelin, January 9 2003
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Re: Cohousing Appraisals Mac & Sandy Thomson, January 10 2003
- Re: Re: Cohousing Appraisals Sharon Villines, January 10 2003
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