Cohousing-L Mailing List: Rhode Island Cohousing Meeting

[Shirley DiMatteo and Mel Shelly (shelly-dimatteo]

The Rhode Island Cohousing Study Group will meet Tuesday, 10/28 at 7:00 
pm at the First Unitarian Church in Providence.  It is located on the 
corner of Benefit and Benevolent Streets.

You may contact Shirley DiMatteo for further information- 861-1537.
On Saturday, October 25, 2003, at 01:00 PM, 
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>    1. Fencing car parking areas for child safety ??? (Peter Scott)
>    2. Re: Fencing car parking areas for child safety ??? (Elaine)
>    3. building material questions (HeidiNYS [at] aol.com)
>    4. Re: building material questions (Elizabeth Stevenson)
>    5. Re: building material questions (M.Studer)
>    6. Re: Physical accessibility and neighborhood walkways (Diane 
> Simpson)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:17:43 +1300
> From: Peter Scott <ps [at] ak.planet.gen.nz>
> To: Coho-L <cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org>
> Subject: [C-L]_Fencing car parking areas for child safety ???
> Reply-To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
>
> There really is startingly little to be said in the archive about 
> fences. (Perhaps one could take that to mean cohousers either use or 
> dont use fences, but that we dont have much issue with them? Or maybe 
> Americans use another name?)
>
> http://nzpp.virtualave.net/coho/search.pl?string=fenc
>
> The particular issue raised here is the fencing of parking areas to 
> prevent, in particular, wandering toddlers getting squished.
>
> Our community has a  proposed fence that would effectively seperate 
> the parked cars and the community. Our car parks are spread along a 
> driveway that runs down our west boundary -- along the long axis of 
> the community. ( for a site plan see 
> http://www.ecohousing.pl.net/design/plans/site.html )
>
> Therefore the fence would come deep into the neighbourhood. It would 
> be a long fence with several gates.
>
> Couriers (deliveries) also use this part of the drive, and despite 
> warnings even residents can be seen zooming along this driveway.
>
> IMO our community is fairly divided on the matter. Some want the fence 
> in deference to the needs of young families, because these are seen 
> as, although a minority, a special needs group. The thought of even 
> one roaming toddler coming to grief makes the fence justified. Making 
> the day to day lives of parents easier will attract more parents and 
> families, something which is seen as desireable.
>
> Others, feel that a fence will intrude into daily life, be 
> unaesthetic, impede access for those with impared mobility, and fail 
> to give youngsters experience with car safety. This group would rather 
> adopt a combination of measures such as speed bumps, signage, child 
> boundary rules.
>
> Have any other communities crossed this river?
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Peter Scott
> Auckland New Zealand
> PO Box 70049 Ranui
> Tel 09 832 4004
> Mob 025 624 0154
>
> Earthsong Eco-Neighbourhood
> http://www.ecohousing.pl.net
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: 24 Oct 2003 16:19:02 -0700
> From: "Elaine" <itchyink [at] spiritone.com>
> To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_Fencing car parking areas for child safety ???
> Reply-To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
>
> We have a rule in our community that children aren't allowed in the 
> parking
> lot but it's tough to enforce. Squished toddlers are a big fear of 
> mine too
> but i don't believe a fence has been proposed here. It would too 
> greatly
> interfere with the comings and goings of everyone. But i have been 
> meaning
> to ask my neighbors to do a quick check behind the car and in the 
> parking
> lot before backing out. I was also thinking of asking to put up a sign
> reminding people of such. Problem is you don't see signs anymore if 
> you look
> them everyday.
> Elaine
>
>
> > There really is startingly little to be said in the archive about 
> > fences.
> > (Perhaps one could take that to mean cohousers either use or dont use 
> > fences,
> > but that we dont have much issue with them? Or maybe Americans use 
> > another
> > name?)
>
>
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>
> Message: 3
> From: HeidiNYS [at] aol.com
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:27:24 EDT
> To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
> Subject: [C-L]_building material questions
> Reply-To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
>
> Hi,
> We are in throes of building,  looking to our co-ho cohorts for 
> input/have
> some to offer
>
> 1.  Porch material:  anyone know if the newer presure treated lumber is
> safe???
>
> 2.  siding: after lots and lots of phone/reading, we may have fibre 
> cement
> options kind of sorted out.  write if interested!
>
> 3:  glass:  can insulated glass doors provide the insulation of a 
> regular
> door/regular door w inulated glass insert??  Seems to us, insulated 
> gladd better
> that regular, however not as warm as inulated metal/fiberglass.....??  
> gather
> that beautiful wood is not a good insulator....
> All for now,
> oh... anyone have experience with an environmentally friendly paint??
> otherwise, will use Behr/Ben Moore..
> best,
> Ruth Cantines Island CoHo, Saugerties,NY
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 08:41:01 -0700
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_building material questions
> From: Elizabeth Stevenson <tamgoddess [at] comcast.net>
> To: <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
> Reply-To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
>
> Many people don't know that when they took lead out of paint, they 
> replaced
> it with mercury, which is also a potent neurotoxin. (Mercury is a huge
> environmental problem in CA, as a result of the gold rush, where 
> mercury was
> used to extract the gold.) Never pour paint down a drain that leads to 
> a
> storm drain. Always wash brushes and equipment in a sink that leads to 
> a
> water treatment plant. Take all unused paint to a recycler, or to your 
> local
> toxic home chemical place to turn it in-this is usually run by the 
> county.
>
> AFM Safecoat paint is free of the mercury and volatile organic 
> compounds
> (VOCs) associated with toxic paints. It requires priming and two 
> coats. It's
> also expensive. But if you want to keep mercury out of the water 
> system (and
> yourself) and VOCs out of your body, it's the way to go. Go to their 
> website
> to find a dealer near you.
>
> --
> Liz Stevenson
> Southside Park Cohousing
> Sacramento, California
>
> > oh... anyone have experience with an environmentally friendly paint??
> > otherwise, will use Behr/Ben Moore..
> > best,
> > Ruth Cantines Island CoHo, Saugerties,NY
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> From: "M.Studer" <mstuder [at] sssnet.com>
> To: <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_building material questions
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 12:47:50 -0400
> Reply-To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
>
> Porch Material: was just wondering if you had considered plastic 
> lumber? -
> it's made from recycled plastics (milk jugs etc) and is pretty durable 
> and
> low/no maintenance.
>
>
> Paint: There just happens to be an article in the current issue of 
> Mother
> Earth News on the very subject of "planet-friendly paints".  You can 
> read a
> shortened version of the article at
> http://www.motherearthnews.com/200/saferpaints/index.html.
>
> Company and Contact information was provided in the magazine, but I 
> don't
> see it on the website so here it is:
>
>
> NO- VOC NATURAL PAINTS:
>
> Bioshield Paint
> 800-621-2591
> www.bioshieldpaint.com
>
> The Old Fashioned Milk Paint Co.
> 978-448-6336
> www.milkpaint.com
>
> Sinan Co.
> 530-753-3104
> www.dcn.davis.ca.us/go/sinan
>
>
> LOW AND NO-VOC LATEX PAINTS
>
> American Formulating and Manufacturing Enterprises (SAFECOAT)
> 800-239-0321
> www.afmsafecoat.com
>
> Benjamin Moore & Co.
> 800-826-2623
> www.benjaminmoore.com
>
> Chem-safe Products
> 210-657-5321
> www.ecowise.com/green/paint/chemsafe.shtml
>
> ICI/devoe Paint (Wonder-Pure)
> 888-681-6353
> www.devoepaint.com
>
> duron Paints (Genesis)
> 800-723-8766
> www.duron.com
>
> Frazee Paints (envirokote)
> 619-276-9500
> www.frazeepaint.com
>
> ICI/Glidden (lifemaster)
> 800-454-3336
> www.iciduluxpaints.com
>
> Kelly-Moore paint co. (enviro-cote)
> 888-562-6567
> www.kellymoore.com
>
> Miller Paint co. (Acro)
> 503-233-4491
> www.millerpaint.com
>
> Mccormick Paint (Natural Odor-free)
> 877-724-6855
> www.mccormickpaints.com
>
> PPG architectural Finishes (Pure Performance)
> 800-441-9695
> www.ppgaf.com
>
> rodda ((Horizon)
> 800-452-2315
> www.roddapaint.com
>
> Sherwin-williams (Harmony)
> 800-474-3794
> www.sherwin-williams.com
>
>
> Also in another sidebar that is not on the website, but is in the mag: 
> some
> other "nasties" to watch out for in paint are:  ammonia, glycol esters,
> heavt meatals (cobalt, cadmium), phthalates (dibutyl phthalate), and
> toluene(methyl benzene).
>
> Good Luck with your project!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <HeidiNYS [at] aol.com>
> To: <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 10:27 AM
> Subject: [C-L]_building material questions
>
>
> > Hi,
> > We are in throes of building,  looking to our co-ho cohorts for 
> > input/have
> > some to offer
> >
> > 1.  Porch material:  anyone know if the newer presure treated lumber 
> > is
> > safe???
> >
> > 2.  siding: after lots and lots of phone/reading, we may have fibre 
> > cement
> > options kind of sorted out.  write if interested!
> >
> > 3:  glass:  can insulated glass doors provide the insulation of a 
> > regular
> > door/regular door w inulated glass insert??  Seems to us, insulated 
> > gladd
> better
> > that regular, however not as warm as inulated metal/fiberglass.....??
> gather
> > that beautiful wood is not a good insulator....
> > All for now,
> > oh... anyone have experience with an environmentally friendly paint??
> > otherwise, will use Behr/Ben Moore..
> > best,
> > Ruth Cantines Island CoHo, Saugerties,NY
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 12:59:17 -0400
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_Physical accessibility and neighborhood walkways
> From: Diane Simpson <coho [at] theworld.com>
> To: Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
> Reply-To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
>
> Has anyone on this list ever used "soil pavement" in any of their
> project?
> The manufacturers claim it is stronger than asphalt, cheaper than
> asphalt, and easier to repair. I'd like some verification on this.
>
> --Diane(:^|
> JP COHOUSING  617-524-6614
> P.O. BOX 420 BOSTON MASSACHUSETTS
> HTTP://WWW.JPCOHOUSING.ORG
> "The people who surround you define the quality of your life."
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> On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 08:16 AM, Diane Simpson wrote:
>
> > Here are the links and contact info on soil pavement:
> >
> > http://nemo.uconn.edu/reducing_runoff/soil_pavement.htm
> > http://www.stabilizersolutions.com/home.html
> > http://www.sspco.org/
> > http://www.polypavement.com/
>
>
>
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