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From: Tree Bressen (tree![]() |
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:26:53 -0800 (PST) |
Hi folks,Miscellaneous comments here in response to recent postings concerning affordability:
There really are lots of community options out there, quite a variety of them. Unfortunately, they are not necessarily easy to find. They are not all organized into one big website or resource. FIC certainly comes closest with its Communities Directory and www.ic.org. However, we at FIC are well aware that there are many more places out there than the ones that choose to list with us--we estimate we are listing no more than 50% of intentional communities. We have lots more in our database that choose not to be publicly identified, and we know there are more that we don't have in our database. Let alone all the situations out there that have some community elements without being full-fledged, self-identified, intentional communities. So you still need to ask around and do your own research, network with knowledgeable people in the place you want to live--there is no replacement for word of mouth.
On top of that, there still aren't as many communities in the US (of all kinds) as i wish there were or think there should be. Robert Putnam, author of Bowling Alone, spoke here in Eugene yesterday. For those who aren't familiar with his work, he researches how civic engagement has declined over the past 40 years in the US and promotes ideas of what he thinks could be done about it. After his talk i asked him about community living and cohousing as one way to increase involvement. Putnam was familiar with it, had even visited a few places. But because the total number of people living in community is still so low (well under 1% of Americans), he didn't see it as creating the kind of shift in society he thinks needs to happen.
I appreciate the significant efforts toward affordability that some cohousing communities have made . . . while recognizing that at this time most cohousing units are still too expensive for most Americans. Rather than being down on existing communities for that, i'd rather we focus on sharing strategies that have worked to create affordability (such as recent postings on partnering with Habitat for Humanity, holding aside some units at below market rate, etc.). I'm thrilled about all the cohousing communities that have succeeded in getting built. Let's think about how to do even better in the future.
Alberta wrote:
I want to live in a dorm style situation. I love cooking, but I sure as heck have a whole lotta other things I want to do other than cook for myself all the time. So I guess what I'm trying to figure out is if there can be a way to create apartment/studio living in or on the transit lines leading into the city and have an intentional community foundation to it.
One community you may want to know about is Apex Belltown Co-op in Seattle. Members there have dorm rooms, and then bathrooms and kitchens that serve groups of dorm rooms, all in one big building right downtown. I don't recall what the equity arrangements are, but my impression was that the monthly fees were comparable to other rentals in the city.
I have the impression that N Street Cohousing in Davis, CA is a lot less expensive to buy into than most cohousing communities. Members there were willing to settle for houses that were older and smaller, rather than building something fancy new. It's all about trade-offs.
Personally as folks who know me know, i am very content living in a limited equity co-op. I live in a large, rambling house near the university. Each of the 9 of us at Walnut St. has our own bedroom, and we share the kitchens, bathrooms, living rooms, and other common areas. We eat together 5 nights a week, and have house meetings once a week. We vary in age from 20 to 60 and have sometimes included families with kids. It's significantly more communal than cohousing, a great fit for me, wouldn't be suitable for folks who need more private space. Our monthly fees are comparable to other housing in our town, way less money than buying one's own house. In order to finance this building purchase we started a community revolving loan fund, where 20 friends lent us the money to buy--it's an alternative financing model that i highly recommend. We modeled our loan fund on Los Angeles Eco-Village's.
And of course there are always the income-sharing communities of the Federation of Egalitarian Communities (www.thefec.org). Members joining there often need no assets. Basically you work full-time on behalf of the community and the community covers all your basic needs: housing, food, clothing, health care, etc.
My impression is that the listserves for community living in general haven't cohered in the way Coho-L has, maybe that's why people end up on this list even when cohousing isn't necessarily exactly the match for them. For Alberta & Carol & others, you could try posting on the Reach board at www.ic.org, which is intended to help people connect with others seeking to create/join/recruit for community. I would also suggest checking out land trusts (some land trusts are just about preserving land, but there are a bunch that have people living on them, often for far less money than it would cost to live elsewhere).
Good luck, --Tree[who chooses to write with lower-case "i"s (hi Ann!) because i believe that the capitalization of the first person pronoun (and no other pronouns), which as far as i know is unique to the English language, reinforces the egotistic individualism of English-language speakers, whose cultures are wreaking havoc on the rest of the world at a rate terrible to behold] ;-)
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