Re: Affordability? | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Sharon Villines (sharon![]() |
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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:47:04 -0700 (PDT) |
On Mar 16, 2007, at 3:28 PM, Brian Bartholomew wrote:
If you don't mind my asking, in the countertop example, according to the rules you were operating under at the time, did you actually have the option of holding everyone to either provide the other color or go bankrupt attempting to deliver on a contractual promise? Or could this have been formally voted away?
Yes, I had the option since I had been offered the option of a "cool" color but it would have caused grief for the developer who was getting squeezed on all sides. I wasn't in the room but he apparently got tears in his eyes when we said we would let this one go. Ours was his first cohousing development and he had been MUCH more liberal with options when he should have been.
How strong is the requirement for consent in consensus? If when push comes to shove consensus decisions are merely political promises,
There are no guarantees in life. When you commit to group living you commit to what is best for the group. That is why you want to be sure the diversity you support is a diversity based on some common needs, not just values/wishes but values/needs. If you need or want a community that is rural to save money and you thus need a van to commute to save energy and further money, then you need to build that in early so the people who are attracted to your community also have that as a value/need.
If home schooling is a value and a requirement for you, you need to attract others to your community who want that also. These are basic things that you can't just add later. Otherwise, they may develop, but they may not.
If a builder promises to provide double pane windows and he installs single (a real, local example), you can go after him to hold him to his word. But if a majority-voting coho agrees to provide a van and you count on it, is there any recourse? Unfortunately, the message I'm getting here is that consensus can't be trusted for interior decoration, much less things impacting personal financial survival.
Consensus is consensus. It's a group of people consenting to a policy. But circumstances change. What we believe today may turn out to be not true tomorrow. Thus a new consensus decision will be required.
Even if you have a legal agreement and you go to court, you can't depend on the developer having any money to fix what he or she did wrong.
The best we can do is be honest and diligent. Do the research. Make the best decisions you can today. Tomorrow you will have to make new ones. No decision making process will change that.
Sharon ----- Sharon Villines Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC http://www.takomavillage.org
- Re: Consensus failures, (continued)
- Re: Consensus failures Rob Sandelin, March 17 2007
- Re: Consensus (was Affordability?) Sharon Villines, March 17 2007
- Re: [C-L] Consensus Saoirse, March 17 2007
- Re: Play or Pay (was Consensus) Kathleen Heft Nolan, March 17 2007
- Re: Affordability? Sharon Villines, March 17 2007
- Re: Affordability? Brian Bartholomew, March 17 2007
- Re: Affordability? Deborah Mensch, March 15 2007
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