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From: Kay Argyle (kay.argyle![]() |
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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:57:01 -0700 (PDT) |
> ... does your group have a workshop? Do you wish that you had one? I want > one badly, because where else will we put the table saw and drill press? But > maybe communities that have them don't use them? How do you deal with > insurance issues? You may safely assume that, whatever interests and hobbies the group members during planning have, later residents will have different interests. Build flexibility into your common spaces. In the common house, we have a "clean crafts" room, with several donated sewing machines. A "messy crafts" room (pottery, painting) was planned but never outfitted, and gets used for badly needed storage. In a separate building we have a woodworking shop and a garage (with garage door). I have no idea if our insurance coverage makes note of them or not. The shop sat empty for the first couple of years after move-in. I don't know if whoever had advocated for its existence during planning had dropped out of the group, or what the reason was. Finally two new households, with shop equipment of their own, moved in and were interested in having someplace to keep and use it, so they set things up and did stuff like install shelving, finish the bathroom, and put security grates over the windows. Most residents use the workshop little if at all. Some use it sporadically. Several people use it a lot. All the shop equipment is privately owned, and permission must be obtained to use it. Small tools are mostly kept locked up in personal cabinets. Welding is not a good idea someplace you have fine (highly flammable) wood dust. The welding equipment is therefore in the garage - which of course has gas-powered equipment stored in it. Before any work can be done, all potential sources of gas fumes have to be dragged outside, and the garage well-aired. A couple of people use the garage occasionally to work on their vehicles, but first they have to make enough space. Which brings us back to storage. We don't have a garden shed, so all of the equipment has to be kept in the garage -racks of shovels, rakes, pickaxes, sledgehammers, and snowshovels, cupboards of irrigation and plumbing parts, a couple of power lawn mowers, a push mower, wheelbarrows, a fertilizer/sand spreader, a tiller, a blower/leaf-vac, an edger, chain saws, assorted ladders ... Some people put their hoses and tomato cages in there during the winter (others leave them out in the snow, typically in the middle of the garden paths - not a good solution either). The rule for garden equipment is, if it is there, you can borrow it. So far everyone has had the sense to leave the tiller alone (potentially the most dangerous item, the chain saws rarely being functional) if they weren't familiar with its use or didn't have someone available to supervise. People tend to think they know how to use mowers, so those have occasionally gotten some serious abuse, luckily so far with no damage except to the machines (from long experience, the landscaping committee budgets several hundred for repairs every year). Unless you have no land and thus no need for equipment, plan landscaping equipment storage, either in a common building or at each house. Remind your architect that (as applicable to your development model), (a) you aren't a "normal" condo and won't be hiring a lawn-care company to do everything for you (unless of course that is what you plan), so you need to own all that equipment yourselves and need someplace to keep it, or (b) you aren't a "normal" suburban neighborhood with attached garages, so you need substitute storage for what would normally go in a garage, such as a large closet on each house that opens outside. Until we got the storage closets under the carports finished, there were about twenty bikes in the garage as well. Cohousers tend to ride bikes more than normal people. Plan bike storage. If painting exteriors is a community responsibility, as for a condo, plan storage for paint, room for several five gallon buckets and a dozen gallon cans. Paint is flammable, and freezing curdles it. You need a room that is heated in winter but has no ignition source (in other words, not a furnace room). Plan storage for other maintenance stuff as well, like spare roof shingles and sprinkler parts. The safety issues relating to a workshop bring us to the subject of keys. Originally all our common areas were on the same key. Concerns about safety, confidentiality, and security (like finding porn on the common house computer!), led to rekeying. We now have four common area keys. (1) The common house interior (still the original key). The interior doors are mostly left unlocked. When the exercise room was in the common house instead of upstairs in the workshop, it was kept locked. Many residents have misplaced their copy of this key, and often new residents never got it passed along to them. Keying the guest rooms separately has been advocated, but some people were opposed (the guest rooms do have door chains). (2) The common house entrances. Older teens may borrow an entrance key, so they can, for instance, watch videos in the sitting room. They get their own key if they join a monthly work team - adult responsibilities, adult privileges. (3) The office and workshop. These two were keyed alike in an attempt to hold down the number of keys. The idea was that only adults would have access to either. Older teens may borrow a key if they need to use the office computer for homework. One teen who used a room upstairs in the workshop as a band practice room was allowed to borrow the key - on his honor to go straight through the room and upstairs, and make sure his friends did the same. New residents don't always receive this key either. (4) The office storage room. Only a handful of people, mostly Management Committee, have the key. Kept there are the community's legal records, personal financial records for the income-qualified units, and a box with keys to most units, officially for emergencies, most of which consist of someone locking themselves out of their house. The room also has the sprinkler control boxes, installed there before the restricted access was decided upon, so the "water master" has to have a key also. Kay Wasatch Commons SLC
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