Re: Operating Expenses, Who Does them and with what Controls? | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Sharon Villines (sharon![]() |
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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:14:40 -0700 (PDT) |
On Oct 11, 2012, at 12:17 AM, Douglas G. Larson <ddhle [at] earthlink.net> wrote: > 1) How does your community use credit cards and debit cards to pay for > community expenses and what controls do you have in place for those > expenditures? We use a credit card but approving the policy was contentious because we have members who don't believe in using credit cards -- temptations of the devil. Others who believed they wouldn't be monitored well. Our policy is posted at: http://www.takomavillage.org/wordpress/documents/policies/credit-card/ The Admin team contained the two conservative, adamant members and the Facilities team had the more pragmantic members who were hurting from having to buy so much stuff and then wait weeks and weeks to get reimbursed. In the meantime the purchases were sitting on their own credit cards. There were also disagreements with the treasurer who only wanted it used for small purchases that were easier to use the card for because then he wouldn't have to process several requests for reimbursement. Others who thought the best use was to put our recurring payments for cable TV and internet on the card because we had had trouble getting our management company to pay those on time. For some reason he didn't believe that represented best practices, but our internet had gone down because these weren't paid for months. Our cable TV was still paid by one member on his own credit card and then he had to submit requests for reimbursement. Admin also insisted that the person had to sign the policy. Since we have another form the cardholder signs that is very much like the one any card holder signs with a company, I felt this was overkill, set bad precedent, and was generally "stupid." We are all legally bound by all our policies whether we sign them or not. Why would this one be signed? You can see how fearful some people were of a credit card. Our managemetn company had actually suggested we get a card. She said none of the condos she managed would have members spend their own money and get reimbursed. But, of course, cohousing is different. There were two philosophies on getting it passed -- take the discussion to the membership to get the "right" policy and pass any policy and then do as we please. We passed the policy and haven't looked back. And we do what works. All the recurring payments except utilities now go on the card. It's great! As long as the credit card bill gets paid. > 1a- Who is authorized to use your community credit card or debit card? We have one person who holds the card and is the only person authorized to even know the number. He has to make all purchases which means people sit with him at the computer and order stuff. He recently did notice some small unauthorized charges. He cancelled the card and had it reissued. I don't know the details. But what was a problem was that since his hame was on the card, he was the only one who could have cancelled it. The CC company wouldn't even talk to the treasurer. We now have two people and two cards (on one account). A person's name has to go on the card and that person is liable for all expenditures if the association doesn't pay the bills. That is a stipulation of the CC company. > 1b- What policies or authorization procedures are in place for use of > these cards? Expenditures on the card follow the same approval and reimbursement procedures as others. He still has to submit receipts and fill out forms. I personally think notes on the bill with receipts attached would be fine. The receipts are necesassary as proof of what the items purchased were. > 1c- Are your books audited and if so by whom and how frequently? We have had annual audits because we had bad managment companies but now that we have a good one (knock on wood) we will go to every few years. > 2) What budgeting controls do you have in place for operating expenditures? > > 2a- Is every operating expenditure checked to see that it is within > budget? If so, who does that? The treasuer and team budget people do this -- or are supposed to. The management company generates a monthly statement and it is distributed to everyone with the Board Minutes. We have had good treasures but now have a great one. He works for the foundation that is now publishing the analysis of Romney and Ryan's bizarre budget ideas. He has also been very helpful in countering the more conservative ideas held by members with no knowledge of non-profit money handling or the appropriate checks and balances. > 2b- If a legitimate expenditure exceeds budget, what override or > exception procedures are used? We have a good policy on decison-making that covers expenditures and this has never happened except when approved. It was always related to facilities and unforeseable events. http://www.takomavillage.org/wordpress/documents/policies/decision-making-2007/ > 2c- If a requested expenditure would exceed budget but is not deemed > essential, what denial or refusal procedure is used? Who issues the refusal? See above. Ultimately the membership can refuse but this is really not a problem for us. If people want an item, we find the money for it. The issues arise when most people don't really want it. For example, we have one member who wants colorful flags to hang in the piazza like those in plazzas in Italian and Hispanic countries. He has wanted this since we moved in. We may finally get it because he has convinced people they would be nice and has limited them to holidays. They still have to be designed and made but if we can get residents to sew them, the community would probably pay some of the expenses supplemented with donations, but he hasn't come forward with a specific proposal or costs. Sharon ---- Sharon Villines Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC http://www.takomavillage.org
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Operating Expenses, Who Does them and with what Controls? Douglas G. Larson, October 10 2012
- Re: Operating Expenses, Who Does them and with what Controls? Sharon Villines, October 11 2012
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Re: Operating Expenses, Who Does them and with what Controls? Eris Weaver, October 11 2012
- Re: Operating Expenses, Who Does them and with what Controls? Sharon Villines, October 11 2012
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