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From: R Philip Dowds (rpdowds![]() |
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 11:54:31 -0700 (PDT) |
1a: We do not have a community credit or debit card. Our accounts are structured as Operating Reserve, Replacement Reserve and Checking. No money can directly leave the Reserves; instead, money is moved to checking, where any one of several bookkeepers can cut and mail a check. But there is very little money kept in Checking; big money is stored in the Reserves. So we have arranged for EFT (Electronic Funds Transfer) with our bank. Two persons are authorized to move money out of the Reserves into Checking. Two different people hold the tokens with the continuously varying security codes. So it always takes two different people to access big money. 1b: See 1a above. 1c: We used to pay about $3K a year for an annual audit. It was always wrong, and nobody looked at it. Now our financial records are kept by us, in Quickbooks, in a cloud server accessible to all. The Treasurer and bookkeepers produce meaningful and accurate quarterly reports, and anyone who cares to look can always explore the read-only Quickbooks file. It's usually accurate and up-to-date. 2: Partly answered above. 2a: At each year's annual meeting, Committee and operating budget are condensed for the subsequent year. Budget line items are placed into the Quickbooks chart of accounts. After that, it's pretty easy to pull budget v actual reports out of Quickbooks. 2b: In some communities (and most condo associations), the duly elected Managing Board has well-defined powers to call on Reserves and move money between line items. At Cornerstone, we've intentionally made the Managing Board quite weak, and rely instead on open meetings operating under names like "Repair" or "Interiors". All members can attend any meeting at any time, with full participation privileges. Apart from the weak Board, meetings have no formal (elected or appointed) membership or Chairpersons, with the possible exception of the Facilitators, who are seen as having exceptional process skills that are beyond those of an ordinary or typical member. Most meetings have very little money to spend. The money they have is generally earmarked, and spending it on something else, or getting more money, usually requires a General Meeting (GM) of all the members. The exception is the meeting called Repair, which has unlimited discretionary access to the six figure Repair Reserve. The theory here, I think, is that we sometimes have repair emergencies that demand an instant response. For instance, we recently discovered that a childrens' play structure had developed some rot, and the meeting called Repair determined we needed to buy a new one right away. Fortunately, even though the play structure was not a line item in the Reserve budget, Repair is authorized to make this decision without going back to the entire community. (I know you said speak to operating, ignore reserve, but in our community, the boundaries get blurred.) 2c: Any community member can come to any meeting to object to any expenditure. If dialog does not resolve the objection, then the issue goes back to GM. Although it's rare that we have knock-down-drag-out fights about money at the small meeting level, it is true that many of us trend toward either taking the issue to GM in the first place, or not even bringing up an expenditure request because we know there will be too much controversy. For instance, finding that a donated and much beloved gas grill had finally pooped out, a small set of households in one corner of the community shared the expense of buying a new one, rather than experience the pain and delay of getting the community to make the decision. We're New Englanders. We're very frugal. R Philip Dowds AIA Cornerstone Cohousing 175 Harvey Street, Unit 5 Cambridge, MA 02140 617.354.6094 On Oct 21, 2012, at 1:19 PM, "Douglas G. Larson" <ddhle [at] earthlink.net> wrote: > > > I posted these questions more than a week ago but got only 2 responses. So I > am posting again to see if I can get any more. > The two people who responded originally need not respond again (Sharon and > Eris). > > > Our community is making changes to one of our bank accounts and we would > like to know what policies and practices other communities use. > > These questions relate solely to operating expenses, not to replacement > reserve budgeting or expenditures > > > Specifically we would like to know > > 1) How does your community use credit cards and debit cards to pay for > community expenses and what controls do you have in place for those > expenditures? > 1a- Who is authorized to use your community credit card or debit card? > 1b- What policies or authorization procedures are in place for use of > these cards? > 1c- Are your books audited and if so by whom and how frequently? > > > 2) What budgeting controls do you have in place for operating expenditures? > > 2a- Is every operating expenditure checked to see that it is within > budget? If so, who does that? > 2b- If an expenditure would exceed budget but is deemed legitimate or > necessary, what override or > exception procedures are used? > 2c- If a requested expenditure would exceed budget but is deemed not > essential, what denial or refusal procedure is used? Who issues the > refusal? > > > Please limit your responses to only operating budget and operating > expenditures and not to Replacement Reserve spending. > > > > Douglas Larson, > Songaia Cohousing, > Bothell, Washington > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ > >
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Re: Credit / Debit Spending for Operating Expenses - Again Douglas G. Larson, October 21 2012
- Re: Credit / Debit Spending for Operating Expenses - Again R Philip Dowds, October 21 2012
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