Re: Quorum
From: Mabel Liang (mabeltwomeeps.com)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 12:58:53 -0700 (PDT)
Interesting!  What's your "posted for objections" process?  Particularly
the time frame?

The thinking behind the "yes only" proxies is that you shouldn't be able
to block if you can't takd part in the discussion at the meeting, which
might change your mind.  So you can register support by proxy.

As Phil alluded to, our "old" process only allowed minor modifications to
a proposal at a meeting.  If a major change was made, then it needed to
come back to another meeting for consensus so that those not attending
could have a chance to consider the new version.  Takoma's mechanism might
deal with this.

The "new" method allows changes to be made at the meeting where consensus
is achieved.  That's part of the reasoning behind getting rid of prooxies
and reducing quorum.

-- Mabel :-)

Mabel Liang
mabel [at] twomeeps.com
Software Engineer turned Gardener

On Mon, May 13, 2013 2:02 pm, Sharon Villines wrote:
>
>
> On May 13, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Elizabeth Magill <pastorlizm [at] gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ha!! I never thought of "yes only" proxies. What a brilliant idea.
>> Before this I'd have said no proxies as my preference.
>
> What many of our members are comfortable with is checking in at the
> beginning of the meeting and then leaving. I wonder why they are going to
> check in if they are going to leave but they say it makes the aware of
> what is on the agenda and make it clear that they approve of any decisions
> made.
>
> The secretary just marks them present and they count to quorum.
>
> This would bother me because I don't want to be recorded as present for
> discussions when i wasn't. I might agree with the passing of the proposal
> but not things said in the discussion that often become assumptions
> underlying the proposal. They then get quoted from the discussion as if
> they were part of it and "you were there."
>
> I would much prefer rules about how long in advance a specific agenda is
> announced -- not a general "we will meet" agenda -- and proposals
> distributed before the meeting. With such rules in place and the ability
> to say, "I can't be there. Can we put this off?", I would be happy with no
> quorum.
>
> If decisions come up in a meeting and seem by those present reasonable to
> make, they be made and posted for objections. if the objections cannot be
> resolved, the decision comes back for discussion. Otherwise it stands.
>
> The important thing is to move forward. Revisit later if necessary. Moving
> forward tests decisions and gives good information.
>
> Sharon
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