Reply to: Getting started (Vincenza Testo)
From: Susan Smith (sdsrdhhotmail.com)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 10:31:20 -0700 (PDT)
Hi Vincenza,

Might I recommend you or a representative from your group attend the Study 
Group 1 Cohousing Workshop in Nevada City California coming up October 6-10.  
The afternoons are all about the nuts and bolts of communities and the many 
various options that you can pursue as you get started.  There are great 
networking opportunities with experts who have designed and built many many 
cooperative ventures.  Plus you get to visit at least 2 neighborhoods and see 
how these groups have formed their communities.

The deadline for early bird registration is Sept 1.  For more information:  
http://www.cohousingco.com/

Sounds like you have a wonderful project underway and I certainly wish you all 
the best.  

Warm aloha,
Sue Smith,
Kona HI




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>    1. Getting started (Vincenza Testo)
>    2. Re: Getting started (Sharon Villines)
>    3. Re: Common meals - mandatory participation? (Sharon Villines)
>    4. Do laws apply to cohousing? [was renter's role in decision
>       making (Sharon Villines)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 01:40:09 -0400
> From: Vincenza Testo <vtesto [at] me.com>
> To: "cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org" <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
> Subject: [C-L]_ Getting started
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> 8 people including myself have just made the decision to build 4 houses on a 
> 50-acre plot in upstate New York that currently has 1 house.  We plan to 
> share it all (land, garden, livestock, machinery, etc.) and are in the 
> beginning stages of discussing purchasing the land from a family friend. My 
> question is- how do you purchase 1 plot with multiple owners or should we 
> parcel the land?
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 07:49:53 -0400
> From: Sharon Villines <sharon [at] sharonvillines.com>
> To: Cohousing-L Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Getting started
> Message-ID: <A076C390-2D1A-4B25-9CD2-EBCCDA6ACAE5 [at] sharonvillines.com>
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> On Aug 15, 2014, at 1:40 AM, Vincenza Testo <vtesto [at] me.com> wrote:
> 
> > My question is- how do you purchase 1 plot with multiple owners or should 
> > we parcel the land?
> 
> If you plan to be a community, I would purchase together. Then you can define 
> common property. 
> 
> You need to know what options are available to you in New York State for 
> "common interest"  ownerships. 
> 
> From Nolo
> 
> > Common Interest Development
> > 
> > A type of housing, composed of individually owned units, such as 
> > condominiums, townhouses, or single-family homes, that share ownership of 
> > common areas, such as swimming pools, landscaping, and parking. Common 
> > interest developments (also known as community interest developments or 
> > CIDs) are managed by homeowners' associations.
> 
> When you look for a lawyer, look for one interested in common interest 
> development (CID)
> 
> Sharon
> ----
> Sharon Villines
> Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC
> http://www.takomavillage.org
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 08:43:26 -0400
> From: Sharon Villines <sharon [at] sharonvillines.com>
> To: Cohousing-L Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Common meals - mandatory participation?
> Message-ID: <718E720D-C9F4-4D79-9223-ECC5D259097F [at] sharonvillines.com>
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> 
> On Jul 31, 2014, at 7:33 PM, Pat Elliott <pdelliott43 [at] gmail.com> wrote:
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> > we learned, to the surprise of most of us, that for members of two or three 
> > households participating in the program is painful, if not traumatic, 
> > whether as members of cook teams or eating at common meals.
> 
> I can think of many reasons this might be true but I'm wondering specifically 
> what their reasons were.
> 
> (From reading these messages, I'm becoming more convinced that the work of 
> meals should be considered part of workshare whether people eat or not.)
> 
> Sharon
> ----
> Sharon Villines
> Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC
> http://www.takomavillage.org
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:21:33 -0400
> From: Sharon Villines <sharon [at] sharonvillines.com>
> To: Cohousing-L Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
> Subject: [C-L]_ Do laws apply to cohousing? [was renter's role in
>       decision        making
> Message-ID: <56BE5275-4A9F-41AA-BF3D-1B7B1E4543A5 [at] sharonvillines.com>
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> On Jul 30, 2014, at 9:52 PM, R Philip Dowds <rpdowds [at] comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > State enabling legislation has nothing whatsoever to say, one way or the 
> > other, about pet policy, or frequency of painting the exterior, or 
> > vegetarian options in the meals program, or what hour the teens have to 
> > stop making a ruckus in the common house
> 
> In DC, a condo is under all the same codes as any other residential 
> structure. So if the noise reaches the neighbors, it is illegal. If the grass 
> grows too tall the city will cut it and charge you.
> 
> We finally got a pet policy because we called the office of animal control to 
> ask if the laws about dogs being "under the control of the owner" or being 
> allowed to run free in their yards applied to us. Was our property private or 
> public?
> 
> The response was that the common spaces are not private yards on which owners 
> would be allowed to let their dogs run free. The only way we could do that 
> legally would be for the Association (she said "Board") to assume 
> responsibility for any injury. That was a moot point so the dog owners had to 
> stand down. 
> 
> One had maintained that their dog was their child and should have all the 
> freedoms the other children had. Others had maintained that we were private 
> property, their property, and they could make their own decision on the 
> matter. 
> 
> Sharon
> ----
> Sharon Villines
> Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC
> http://www.takomavillage.org
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