Cohousing-L Mailing List: Re: noise, pets CommonHouse event use

[Kay Wilson (kwilsonfisk]

This sounds like an excellent solution! Congratulations!

We had once instance where we had to use the county rules, and it was not a 
comfortable process.

Kay


-----Original Message-----
From: Cohousing-L [mailto:cohousing-l-bounces+kwilsonfisk=comcast.net [at] 
cohousing.org] On Behalf Of Tim Hunter
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:55 AM
To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
Subject: Re: [C-L]_ noise, pets CommonHouse event use


We also had problems trying to reach agreement on a pet policy. Pet owners and 
their friends on one side, non-pet owners on the other. Finally one of our pet 
owners offered what I think is a very ingenious solution. The pet owners 
collectively took responsibility not just for their own pets, but for all the 
pets in the community. If anybody has a problem with noise, waste, whatever, 
they can go to the pet owner of their choice and ask for relief. As soon as 
they made this promise the non-pet owners stopped resisting and we had an 
agreement.

As far as I know we have not had to test the policy yet. Perhaps this is 
because the policy exists.

—
Tim Hunter
Durham Central Park Cohousing Community


> On Jun 28, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Kay Wilson <kwilsonfisk [at] comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> We had a committee that worked on pet rules for months, but they were 
> not able to agree on what they should be. Rather than prolong this 
> agony, we decided to simply quote the county rules that would be in 
> effect regardless of whether we had our own rules.
> 
> If someone has a problem with a neighbor's pet, they need to go 
> through the county complaint process, just like anyone else in the 
> county has to do. Therefore, an infraction is whatever the county says 
> it is!
> 
> Kay
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cohousing-L
> [mailto:cohousing-l-bounces+kwilsonfisk=comcast.net@cohousin
> g.org] On Behalf Of Ruth J Hirsch
> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 6:05 AM
> To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
> Subject: [C-L]_ noise, pets CommonHouse event use
> 
> 
> Hi, Kay,
> 
> thank you--quite a list of sounds.  
> I missed understanding what it means, having an infraction.
> Once there is an infraction, then what?  ?Consequence?
> 
> About CommonHouse events,  I see that your note is focused on noise,  
> Please post info on clean-up/fees.
> 
> many thanks,
> Ruth
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 28, 2015, at 6:16 AM,
> cohousing-l-request [at] cohousing.org wrote:
> 
> 
> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 12:23:00 -0700
> From: "Kay Wilson" <kwilsonfisk [at] comcast.net>
> To: <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Home-based ... noise policies request
> 
> 
> When I checked our noise requirements, I was surprised that they are 
> pretty piecemeal. Here FWIW is what we have.
> 
> PETS. After a long struggle to develop our own pet rules, we decided 
> to include our county animal regulations verbatim.
> They include:
> 
>       Infractions: Animal Noise: For any person(s) to own any animal which 
> by its barking, howling, baying, squealing, crowing, crying, bleating, 
> screeching, or making any other noise by its volume or frequency 
> unreasonably disturbs or interferes with the peace of any person(s) 
> for more than fifteen minutes in any one-hour period of any day, and 
> is documented by three or more separate episodes of such noise in a 
> sequential seven-day period. The burden is upon the owner of such 
> animal(s) to maintain quiet.. [KCC 7.14.030 Infractions (3)]
> 
> KIDS RULES. 
> They include:
> 
>       Be Courteous During Meals: ... Create a quiet dining atmosphere free 
> from running, yelling, piano and TV noise.
> 
> FACILITY USE. 
> We have a Facilities Use Agreement which we use for private events in 
> our common house. This one addresses noise:
> 
>       Facilities Cleanup . When leaving, please be respectful of neighbors 
> by keeping noise to a minimum.
> 
> MODEL LEASE AGREEMENT: 
> Since we have some resident-owned rental units, we have a model lease, 
> which most of our landlords use. It includes this noise provision:
> 
>       Tenant's family and guests shall at all times maintain order in the 
> Premises and at all places on the Premises, and shall not make or 
> permit any loud or improper noises, or otherwise disturb other 
> residents;
> 
> (I have posted our home businesses requirements separately).
> 
> Kay Wilson
> Meadow Wood Cohousing
> Bremerton, WA
> 
> 
> PS:  I have an intermittent e-mail glitch.  If you write and do not 
> hear back from me shortly, please call me or please re-send.  Thank 
> you,  Ruth
> 
> 
> 
> 
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