Re: Describing Diversity | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Tom Smyth (tom![]() |
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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 05:38:21 -0700 (PDT) |
Sharon, thanks for having the courage to post this and be vulnerable. Diversity is always an emotional topic. I think there are some straightforward answers to your questions, at least in the social justice circles I move in. > This information is based on the assumptions of the webmasters, not self-identification, and is given without definitions. Who is non-white? Clearly subjective. Yes, self-identification is important, and therefore race is somewhat subjective, but I don't think that white people falsely identifying as people of color is a very big problem in today's society. There have been a few noteworthy cases (e.g. Rachel Dolezal) but generally people from the dominant group tend to want to stay in the dominant group. So I would suggest that if you have concerns about your webmaster mis-identifying some people, ask them to check with the person in question. Should be easily resolvable. > One of our Hispanic members is convinced she has African American ancestry—“Look at me." How would you classify our Indian members? The British call them black. Or the "bi-racial children"? Is it fair to call them non-white or white? And is “white” pejorative when everyone else has a nationality? European is better and Caucasian more accurate. Are Hispanics white or Hispanic? I don't think you need to complicate things to this extent. What matters most is the distinction between the dominant group (white people) and those outside it (the most accepted term these days is "people of color" -- I would suggest this over "non-white" as it's more positive and affirming). What also matters is not what the British think, but what is the reality of race and racial divides in your community and society. And as you've stated, all you have to do is ask. If a person you assumed was "Hispanic" request to be counted as white, of course, honor that, and vice versa. Others in this thread have expressed nicely why it is important to state this explicitly. I think the alternative wording you gave ("from many ethnic, religious and cultural traditions") makes it sound like you maybe have a few Jewish people and some Eastern Europeans. Race is important, even though it is a social construction. Ethnicity is just as much of a social construction as race. And make no mistake, the Black Lives Matter movement and the accompanying social struggle currently raging in this country are all about race, not ethnicity. If I were in your community, I would prefer the issue of racial diversity be not addressed at all on the website rather than use this alternative text, as it seems to want to avoid the issue, and is emblematic of the "color-blind" mindset that others have mentioned as problematic, and about which much has been written. I encourage you to read up on it. I'd be happy to provide pointers if you're interested. Again, thank you for sharing this as it is a hugely important topic! On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Sharon Villines <sharon [at] sharonvillines.com > wrote: > > How does your community describe diversity in your community. This > sentence has been suggested for our website: > > > In early 2016, approximately 20% of residents were non-white, 8% of > adults identified as LGBT, and several of us were living with disabilities. > > I objected to last week when I saw it on several grounds. This information > is based on the assumptions of the webmasters, not self-identification, and > is given without definitions. Who is non-white? Clearly subjective. > > One of our Hispanic members is convinced she has African American > ancestry—“Look at me." How would you classify our Indian members? The > British call them black. Or the "bi-racial children"? Is it fair to call > them non-white or white? And is “white” pejorative when everyone else has a > nationality? European is better and Caucasian more accurate. Are Hispanics > white or Hispanic? > > If I am African American, do I become a statistic? If I’m Hispanic and > came from Scandinavia, am I twofer? > > The intent is clear and the definitions are probably “standard” but even > the Census now allows “mixed”. Race is also considered a social construct > with no validity. And we don’t think of each other that way. It > misrepresents the community to identify members with these distinctions. > The point is to be diverse because it not an issue, not because it is. > > My suggestion is more like: > > > We have households with members who are partnered and single; from many > ethnic, religious and cultural traditions; variously abled and challenged; > parents and non-parents; and of differing sexual orientations and > nationalities. > > > > Some watch television and others don’t; some are fat and some skinny; > some vegan, vegetarian, and omnivores; and parents and non-parents. Avid > gardeners and others who just enjoy watching. Some are up at dawn to call > for the snow plow and others rise somewhere short of noon. > > Some humor helps but the seemingly humorous distinctions are also > important. When I was looking for cohousing, I eliminated one eco-village > when the contact said, “Oh, we even have people who watch television.” > Those are the things some people are looking for. The lifestyle issues. > Will I be considered weird? Or sinful? Or not politically correct? > > The vegan and vegetarian thing is a deal breaker for some people, as is > being an omnivore in some communities. > > I think how we identify each other is a very important issue and has been > since the 1970s with the civil rights movements. It can easily separate > rather than welcome. > > Sharon > ---- > Sharon Villines > Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC > http://www.takomavillage.org > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ > > > -- Tom Smyth Worker-Owner, Sassafras Tech Collective Specializing in innovative, usable tech for social change sassafras.coop *·* @sassafrastech
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