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From: carol collier (doctor5622no |
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| Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:28:03 -0700 (PDT) | |
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!important; } I had a gut reply to this, but I erased it because I felt it
would be counterproductive to having a useful dialogue. It is hard to connect
with people on the Internet because you can't see or hear their emotions. That
being said, racism is alive and well in the world I travel in everyday;
however, I don't go looking for it, and I don't see it everyday. I have this
privilege because I have an Ivy League education, and I am a physician.We all
have prejudices and biases. There is no way to grow up in the US, or anywhere
else, and not have them. In this forum, I am not going to discuss what group
has it worst, not sure what purpose that would serve.I do feel it is
disingenuous to dismiss someone else's reality based on one's "research." I
will offer my opinion, that's all I can do, that racial diversity is one thing
cohousing should look at when considering a diverse community. It sounds as if
there are many who disagree with this approach, and in the free country we live
in, they have every right to do so.
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On Sunday, September 18, 2016, 11:42 AM, Sharon Villines <sharon [at]
sharonvillines.com> wrote:
> On Sep 15, 2016, at 2:02 PM, carol collier via Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at]
> cohousing.org> wrote:
> In the U.S there are several aspects of a person that are considered
> default. Among these are White and Protestant. According to the 2010
> US Census 12% of the citizenry identify as Black, 72% as White. That
> means that about 3 out of every 4 people in the US are White, six times
> as many as are Black.
2015 from the census:
White alone, 77.1%
Black or African American alone, 13.3%
American Indian and Alaska Native alone, 2015 1.2%
American Indian and Alaska Native alone, 0.9%
Asian alone, 5.6%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone, percent, 0.2%
Two or More Races, 2.6%
Hispanic or Latino, 17.6%
Adding all those who identify as other than “white” is 41.4% nationally. (The
total as greater than 100% is probably accounted for by those who identify as
both/and.)
41.4% vs 13.3% Black or African American is interesting. All these are people
who have been identified as of color. A sociologist from South America
described my son who is Swedish and African American “a brown boy.” That was
her category. It distinguished a and just as discriminated against in their own
areas. Indians were just as excluded as African Americans in Oklahoma in the
1950s. The Asians in the Western United States. Hispanics in many places today.
These groups have skin colors as varied as the differences within groups of
people self-identified as “white” and as “black.”
A friend of a Jamaican family, born in England, raised in Canada, had a hard
time adjusting to life in Washington DC. DC was more than 50% African American
when she came to DC for graduate school. (It was 50% in 2010.) The reason was
that her behavior and expectations were not those of “people who look like me.”
The cultural difference were very great. She had a British accent and standards
of dress and behavior that were very British even though she grew up in Canada.
When I came to DC, I didn’t understand why the African American population
didn’t take over the city and run things. Congress is supposed to do this but
they don’t. The city has languished for a long time because of this. She
explained that the “black” population is actually several cultures and ethnic
groups. Jamaican, African American, French African, etc. They are cultures that
disdain each other. DC also has a long established wealthy and professional
middle class. Many live on the Gold Coast on16th Street. Ethnicity and social
class trumps skin color.
The “whites” also divide themselves as Jewish, Catholic, Protestant/WASP,
Episcopalian, American, British, French, etc. To the African American people
these divisions in DC are probably no more visible than the divisions in the
African diaspora.
“White” is considered the majority in Western Europe and the United States. But
culture and ethnic identification has a greater influence on daily life. That
is certainly not to disregard the experience of African American people as
confronting racism daily, but to point out that other people also feel equally
discriminated against in certain contexts. And not all African Americans feel
discriminated against as a daily experience.
The Jews were a major target of the Holocaust because they were non-Aryan, but
other populations were also disenfranchised and sent to concentration camps
because they did not conform to the Aryan ideal. Non-Catholics, homosexuals,
anti-Nazi, etc. Aryans were Catholic, “white,” blond hair, blue eyes. (While
the Holocaust literature usually identifies both Protestants and Catholics
Christians, they themselves often do not.)
One of my favorite stories is from Maya Angelou on her time living in Africa.
She was suddenly immersed in a world where people looked like her, not just in
skin color but in features and stature. The same body type. She said it was
startling to suddenly not being able to ascribe rudeness and hostility to
prejudice against her because of her skin color or distinctly African features.
Sorry this is so long but I’ve done a lot of reading on this topic to
understand my own history. All of it goes to say that there are many kinds of
diversity and skin color is not the most important, at least in cohousing. Even
if everyone is European or African American the cultural and ethnic differences
will probably be greater than one would expect.
Sharon
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Sharon Villines
Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC
http://www.takomavillage.org
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- Re: Describing Diversity, (continued)
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Re: Describing Diversity Tiffany Lee Brown, September 14 2016
- Re: Describing Diversity Mark Thompson, September 14 2016
- Re: Describing Diversity carol collier, September 15 2016
- Re: Describing Diversity Sharon Villines, September 18 2016
- Re: Describing Diversity carol collier, September 18 2016
- Re: Describing Diversity Sharon Villines, September 20 2016
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Re: Describing Diversity Tiffany Lee Brown, September 14 2016
- Defining Diversity [was Describing Diversity] Sharon Villines, September 18 2016
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