Re: (Mostly) favorable article on Emerson Commons, with some explanations | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Sharon Villines (sharon![]() |
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Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 12:47:49 -0700 (PDT) |
> On Jun 23, 2017, at 4:49 PM, Linda H <linda [at] hobbeton.com> wrote: > > On 6/23/2017 3:38 PM, Virgil Huston wrote: >> 2) often minimal real community >> (a communal dinner a week isn't much of a community and you can get >> that in a country club setting or via other means) > > Is that really true in a lot of cohousing? What is the experience of list > members who are actually living in cohousing? The definition of community is huge but how many meals a week one eats together is not part of the definition although it is one thing that can build community — even at the country club or the local MacDonalds. I used to have breakfast several times a week at the same diner. With no introductions or even good mornings, a group of us did have that community feeling as we read our newspapers and drank coffee. One morning a noisy interloper with a cell phone appeared. He was a salesman making cold calls at the top of his voice, in public. Our public. Without a word or even a glance at each other, we rose as one and ushered him out. One took his coffee cup and water glass, another his contact book and briefcase, another his hat and umbrella, and another his arm. We steered him toward a table far away from our little corner. Then everyone sat back down and quiet resumed. I often think about those fellow diners. Silent and discreet. When I do back to NY, I go for breakfast just to see them and enjoy a quiet newspaper and coffee together. Now I get a smile and a nod since it is years between visits. But never a word. And talking is supposed to be required for community, too. > I like her description of classic cohousing design, where the architecture > facilitates interaction.It would be interesting to know how just how much the > physical design of the community contributes to the level of engagement. I > know from my work experience that it can make a big difference in how people > interact with each other. This I think proximity is very important. For me in the lot development model, it would take a long time to bond to neighbors who are further way. At Takoma Village some are townhouses and others stacked units but all are connected. Many of us are 20-50 feet from the common house and get there through covered corridors. When I look at the plans for communities of single household buildings, the houses seem very far apart. When the new wears out some will wish they could drive to the common house. It makes it much harder to do things like pop in to see how someone is doing or borrow a coffee grinder. Or take over some freshly baked cookies. Harder to take out your neighbor’s trash. Or notice that they need it taken out. It may just be a difference of time. It takes longer when you are rubbing elbows less often. Far fewer chance encounters. In some apartment buildings where people have lived for years also have a cohousing feel. People stop in the halls to talk and share food and movie watching. In one of my friends buildings which had 8 condo units, they also shared couches as guest rooms. There was always a place for friends and family to stay, and meals to share. My family becomes your family — much the same as cohousing. Cohousing is intentional community and attempts to put as many opportunities for community to develop, but community exists in many, many other places and in no less important to the participants. > As for what's scary ….. It's shared finances and the fear of being left > without resources should the community fail. One thing I felt assured of from the beginning and now 21 years after I first heard about cohousing is that the movement encourages and offers advice on sustainable financial practices. All condos and coops are based on interdependent finances. And the model works as well as any other real estate ownership model. Single household buildings also fail financially. Remember the housing crisis of 2008? Not only deception but unrealistic planning. All real estate developments rise and fall on good financial oversight and informed planning. And responsible residents keeping their eyes open to potential problems, physical or economic or social. The hard place in cohousing is before move-in and until the last unit is sold. All real estate developers have the same risky periods when all can be lost — unless they have a workable financial plan, lots of experience, and realistic goals. It’s harder for cohousers because they have no money, no experience, and unrealistic goals. Gradually the movement has gained experience over the dead bodies of failed communities, but the communities have failed in the development process, not after move in as far as I know. There are rumors of 1-2 communities that became just regular condos but I don’t think they have been confirmed. Communities also got caught in the fall out from the financial crisis because real estate was not selling. But this affected commercial developments as much as cohousing. The best defense against risk is knowledge applied. Sharon ---- Sharon Villines Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC http://www.takomavillage.org
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