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From: Margaret Porter (margaret.porter![]() |
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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 11:15:22 -0700 (PDT) |
Thanks, Eris, for so eloquently expressing your objection to the stereotyping of “how men are” and “how women are.” I could not agree more. None of us should be pigeonholed in that way, particularly if we are trying to live in community together. I think it is not only wrong but destructive of community to decide what a person is like based on the color of their skin or gender or sexual preference or race or economic status or any other of the myriad ways in which people are stereotyped. Whether someone is a good community member certainly depends in part on life experience. It also seems to me that we naturally more easily develop relationships with people who have similar life experiences, whether that may be a preference for sports or gardening or building projects or hiking or music or art or mediation. And those preferences can show up in the choices of whom we hang out with and how we participate in community. But I don’t think those preferences should determine the people with whom we choose to be in community. I think it’s often very hard to know whether a given person will be a good fit in a community. Moreover, a person’s participation and contributions will evolve over time. I agree with you that the best we can do is be clear about the vision and values for our community—the human characteristics we want in the people we try to live with, and then keep looking for those qualities in the people who may want to live in our community or who have chosen to live here. My experience of the people in my community is that the tendency to chose left -brain activities or construction work or caring for others is not dependent on their gender. I know men here who will spend hours fixing something for another community member without expectation of reward or take another to the emergency room at all hours of the day and night or spend hours trying to sort out the best way to compassionately respond to a difficult situation in our community. I know women who have a preference for analytical thinking, problem solving and strenuous physical activity who might also consistently reach out to a community member in need. Moreover, we need all kinds of contributions—from developing budgets to caring for our gardens to fixing our buildings to being a compassionate listener. A healthy community thrives on the diverse gifts of its members. Our challenge in community is, I think, to look for ways to deepen our relationships and contributions. Judging or stereotyping anyone, even based on how they have lived is, in my opinion, not only arrogant but antithetical to community. Margaret Porter Silver Sage Village > On Jul 12, 2017, at 7:16 AM, Eris Weaver <eris [at] erisweaver.info> wrote: > > > Umm, what century are we in, folks? As a feminist and a Lesbian who has > often straddled the gender divide, I am finding this whole conversation a > bit disturbing. Anytime you start talking about wanting more people from one > group or fewer from another it starts to smack of discrimination to me. > Anytime people start talking about "how men are" versus "how women are" I > want to scream as I've spent most of my life fighting these stereotypes (as > I don't fit the "woman" box is so many ways). Why do you want more men? Or > fewer women? What's that gonna do for you? Nobody wants to be recruited to > fill a quota. > > Be clear about your values & vision and market that. It's more important > that you attract people who resonate with those than getting some arbitrary > percentages based on gender/race/socioeconomic status/whatever. > > > > Eris Weaver > FrogSong cohousing in Cotati, CA > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ > >
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gender stereotypes (WAS Marketing question for the men on the list) Eris Weaver, July 12 2017
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Re: gender stereotypes (WAS Marketing question for the men on the list) Jenny Guy, July 12 2017
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Re: gender stereotypes (WAS Marketing question for the men on the list) Chris Hansen, July 12 2017
- Re: gender stereotypes (WAS Marketing question for the men on the list) Scout Tomyris, July 12 2017
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Re: gender stereotypes (WAS Marketing question for the men on the list) Chris Hansen, July 12 2017
- Re: gender stereotypes (WAS Marketing question for the men on the list) Margaret Porter, July 13 2017
- Re: gender stereotypes (WAS Marketing question for the men on the list) Beverly Jones Redekop, July 17 2017
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Re: gender stereotypes (WAS Marketing question for the men on the list) Jenny Guy, July 12 2017
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