Re: car-sharing question (Findhorn) | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Fred H Olson (fholson![]() |
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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 06:29:59 -0800 (PST) |
Below is a response on this thread that came directly to me. I got permission to share it here. It is from Gordon McAlpine Manager, Moray Carshare in Scotland that Findhorn uses that Graham Meltzer wrote about. Fred -- Bassett Creek Cohousing, Minneapolis http://mn.cohousing.org/bcrk/ Fred H. Olson Minneapolis,MN 55411 USA (near north Mpls) Email: fholson at cohousing.org 612-588-9532 My Link Pg: http://fholson.cohousing.org ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 14:35:25 From: Gordon McAlpine <manager [at] moraycarshare.com> My friend Graham Meltzer passed on his message and your messages to me. Great to see your interest. I just wanted to say that if you have specific co-housing groups setting up who might be interested in trying car sharing, then I am most happy to help. We are a charity created for public and environmental benefit. We are very willing to pass on our tools and our knowledge. Our car club is a low tech model. We have no shareholders to pay a dividend to. And we have a very high level of usage - about 38%. people in the industry say 40% is about the best anyone can achieve. Our prices are much cheaper than having your own car if you have low or moderate/medium use - as defined in the figures you quote, Fred. I have not found any car clubs cheaper than us. And as your example shows, we are much much cheaper than commercial operations, who waste a lot of money on expensive high tech solutions, because they assume people are not to be trusted, but are going to try and abuse the system if at all possible. In a co-housing environment, you can use the low tech solution, which is best on a certain amount of trust. Also, there is a mistake in one of your calculations, Fred. Our per mile price covers petrol. When members pay to refuel a car, then they get the money back on their next bill. [I posted a reply to cohousing-L address this. Fred] Also, the IRS figure (54 cents per mile) is a very inaccurate and misleading figure. We have a similar one here (45p per mile). This is the cost of an expensive car that doesn't do too many miles. I do not know why, but the figures have been fixed to suit certain people. My guess is that it started as a way of giving civil servants an income supplement. No car clubs use per mile charges only. It is much fairer to distribute the costs on time used and miles driven. Our mileage charges cover fuel costs plus maintenance costs due to wear & tear. All other costs are covered by hourly charges and subscriptions. We have fine tuned this system over 10 years of experience with a high level of member feedback and influence. Hoping this may be helpful. Regards, Gordon McAlpine Manager, Moray Carshare Registered charity no. SC047744 08458 609 609 http://www.moraycarshare.org
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Re: car-sharing question (Findhorn) Graham Meltzer, March 3 2018
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Re: car-sharing question (Findhorn) Fred H Olson, March 3 2018
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Re: car-sharing question (Findhorn) Fred H Olson, March 3 2018
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