Re: affordable housing | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Ron Ingram (ingramr88![]() |
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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 14:45:35 -0800 (PST) |
Sharon, Thank YOU for writing this response. You and others in this group have Alot of wisdom regarding this. I have zero knowledge of how to even begin but I believe where we are with housing right now it's worth it. I am young ish and willing to be mentored regarding this. I believe funds can be found for this project. Seems like a lot or work is involves from the very beginning. Guess what? We are in luck because I have the time and energy and the need to dedicate time to this. Thank for taking me serious and not belittling me. Best, Ron On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 8:38 AM Sharon Villines via Cohousing-L < cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org> wrote: > > On Jan 2, 2020, at 10:56 AM, Ron Ingram <ingramr88 [at] gmail.com> wrote: > > > > None of these workers were paid money. > > Zero dollars were given to electricians, plumbers, roofers, inspectors, > > etc. to be honest, we didn't have any money. None of us. But we pulled > > together and got it done. We valued sweat equity. > > Thank you for taking time to write such a thoughtful and balanced account > of the way things are. When you describe how the small town built their > church, it reminds me of the forming-a-cohousing-group stage. Most have > more income that those in your small town but the need and the desire are > the same. Communities are fully involved in doing as much as they can > themselves. It isn’t always apparent because it’s less visible but the > Yankee-do’s are hard at work. One reason developers and banks refused to > work with cohousing groups in the first 20-30 years is not just because the > banks thought cohousers were weird but because the cohousers had no idea > how they were going to pay for it and actually had no idea how much it > would cost. They were just going to do it. > > Renting is a step in the process of building a secure foundation for > living. People need a place to live now, not when they have saved enough > money — if you ever can save enough to own while renting. Many of us elders > also rented for a large part of our lives. We didn’t have the money either. > Unless you had parents who could give or loan you the downpayment, it > wasn’t possible. > > But here we are now with many people who want to live in cohousing not > being able to afford to, and many people who already live in cohousing, not > having or not willing to have the money to provide them with housing that > is affordable for them. Affordable for them means forget the 80% of market > rate. > > I’m dubious about the plans to have a few low income units mixed in with > market rate units. I’ve witnessed a group that was started by a city worker > who was living in subsidized housing and wanted a home so she could adopt a > child. “I need more than one room.” But when she start organizing the > group, middle class professionals who already owned market rate houses > joined. Very quickly the goal became building market rate housing that > would support low-income housing. She became very frustrated and felt her > idea had been taken away from her. It’s very hard when you live from one > paycheck to another to explain to those who live well that the expense of > building a common house, for example, is above your means, and that you > don’t want to live in a situation with constant pressure to pay higher > monthly fees because someone wants to upgrade faucets. It doesn’t matter > that the new faucets are pretty and force people to use less water, you > can’t afford them. And you don’t want someone buying them for you — day > after day. The pressure can be enormous. > > This is why I think low income cohousing will happen when a group of low > income households comes together to build housing affordable by low-income > households. And insists on equality. That nothing will be done that can’t > be afforded by at least 60% or 90% of the members. If there are people who > want to help with initial financing that it be done as a loan or outright > gift, not in a way that creates a two income level community with the > smaller piece being low-income. > > What I can offer is to design and host a website and an email discussion > group for those who are interested in giving sweat equity to build > low-income cohousing. I can also offer policing to keep the plans from > escalating to soaring heights of “affordable” defined as 80% of market rate > in the area. And online research. > > I’m sure there are many other people on the list who can offer skills and > information without compromising the efforts of the group to build housing > they can afford. > > Sharon > ---- > Sharon Villines > Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC > http://www.takomavillage.org > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://L.cohousing.org/info > > > >
- Re: affordable housing, (continued)
- Re: affordable housing Ron Ingram, January 2 2020
- Re: affordable housing Sharon Villines, January 3 2020
- Re: affordable housing rphilipdowds, January 3 2020
- Re: affordable housing Lynne MARKELL, January 4 2020
- Re: affordable housing Ron Ingram, January 3 2020
- Re: [C-L] affordable housing Brian Bartholomew, January 4 2020
- Re: [C-L] affordable housing Sharon Villines, January 4 2020
- Re: [C-L] affordable housing Ron Ingram, January 4 2020
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