Re: COVID divisions | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: b farris (btgf![]() |
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 11:01:47 -0700 (PDT) |
Alan, How do you handle resentment toward the anti-maskers? Izzy > On Aug 16, 2021, at 5:26 AM, Elizabeth Magill <pastorlizm [at] gmail.com> > wrote: > > Also the larger view of "these smart people do the right thing" and "those > dumb people do the wrong thing" hides the disagreements among people who > are supposedly in the right camp. > > In our community most of the disagreement is between people who want to be > "very strict" and those who want to be only "strict". Or as, those of us in > the second group say "reasonable" or "follow the science" or "avoid > performative behaviors", which for those of us in that group turns out to > be "not like those crazy extremists". > (As far as we know all eligible adults are vaccinated, but we don't ask any > individuals to share medical information.) > > So I don't think that any group is going to avoid conflict around a hard > and changing situation. > > What we have done successfully is ask "how can we meet the most people's > needs as possible." > So for example, we didn't close the common house, but did require that > everyone who uses any room sign up for it. That way others who are more > strict can see if anyone else was in a room and do any cleaning/airing > out/wait time that meets their needs. > The strictest folk, of course, do not use the common house, but there is no > reason (in our community) for the more moderate of us to not use it. > And then it turned out the strictest folk wanted to know that there was > never anyone in the mailroom at any time without a mask. So they asked for > that and people--some who agree, some who do not--all agreed to wear masks > in the mailroom to meet that families concerns. > > Which I suppose is a long way to agree with Alan's idea of secret sauce. > Our goal wasn't to find agreement on what is the right thing to do, but > rather to find a point where each individual in our community can do what > is right for them. > > -Liz > (The Rev. Dr.) Elizabeth Mae Magill > Pastor, Ashburnham Community Church > Minister to the Affiliates, Ecclesia Ministries > www.elizabethmaemagill.com > 508-450-0431 > > >> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 8:41 AM Alan O'Hashi via Cohousing-L < >> cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org> wrote: >> >> The COVID-21 topic is one that tests a forming community. It is an issue >> that summarizes what the cohousing secret sauce is all about. One of the >> reasons why cohousing isn't popping up on every street corner is the basic >> secret sauce ingredient, which is shedding the American Way as it has been >> pounded into our heads since we popped out of the womb. >> >> What society tells us is that we are rugged individuals who can make our >> own choices and don't need help from others. Cohousing secret sauce is the >> opposite, we give up individual liberty for the good of the whole, albeit, >> there's a gray-area balancing zone, which is where community COVID policies >> fall. >> >> I read the original post about 60percent think x and 40percent think y and >> why can't the y-thinkers just cave to the 60percent. In cohousing, the >> majority rule, win by one means of decision making is tossed out the window. >> >> When you find yourself lapsing back into the American Way, take a step >> back. In a consensus community, the question is, What is the x-thinkers >> willing to give up to bring the y-thinkers into the whole? This doesn't >> mean that the y-thinkers can block a decision based on individual >> discomfort or self-serving perspectives. The y-thinkers must frame their >> objections in terms of how their view is a community issue. >> >> When COVID first hit, my place -- I imagine like most communities -- are >> microcosms of the outside world. We have/had a Dr. Google, MD who had all >> the answers, was an anti masker he also had a nurse practitioner or two who >> carried around his medical bag. >> >> Where we landed was, a resident didn't have to wear a mask, but had to >> have one on their person if they encountered anyone in the outdoor common >> spaces. The anti maskers were okay with social distancing. We were >> universally in agreement to close the common house. The main issue was the >> arrogance, more than the actual mask issue. >> >> While it is not talked about, in my view, we are now gearing up for the >> next wave. >> >> Thx >> >> Alan O >> >> >> Alan O'Hashi >> Get Up Off the Couch >> www.alanohashi.com >> www.getupoffthecouch.comCO: 303-910-5782 ....WY: 307-316-2113 ..NE: >> 402-327-1652 .... >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: >> http://L.cohousing.org/info >> >> >> >> > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://L.cohousing.org/info > > >
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- Re: COVID divisions Joyce Cheney, August 14 2021
- Re: COVID divisions Sharon Villines, August 15 2021
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Re: COVID divisions Alan O'Hashi, August 16 2021
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Re: COVID divisions Elizabeth Magill, August 16 2021
- Re: COVID divisions b farris, August 16 2021
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Re: COVID divisions Elizabeth Magill, August 16 2021
- Re: COVID divisions Sharon Villines, August 21 2021
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