Cohousing-L Mailing List: Regarding short term rental policies

[Denise Tennen (denisetennen]

Hi Karin

We remodeled our home to bring my mother hear to live with us. Uncertain that 
she actually would do so, we wanted the possibility of recouping the money by 
renting out the space as an airbnb.

This was back in October 2015. We never availed ourselves of this option, but 
the community(Monterey Cohousing) approved the following guidelines  we 
suggested for use of our home in this way (approval was very specific just to 
us):

A keyed lock on our tunnel door will prevent guest's access to interior common 
space.  We might give our guests tours of interior common space or invite them 
to attend community meal or community events with the understanding that we 
need to be present if they are in common space.
We would post notice on the TODAY board  and Mococochat  of guests’ names and 
itinerary as soon as we know this information.

We will instruct our Air BNB guests to introduce themselves as such to anyone 
they will encounter in outdoor common space.

We will have Air BnB guests park on our pad if there is not sufficient space 
available in guest parking.  In the case of insufficient guest parking, we 
would move one of our cars into our garage or to city street parking.

We would only host guests while  we are at home.



I hope that helps!

Are you planning to be at the conference in Madison this August? 
Denise 

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>   1. short term retal policies (Karin Hoskin)
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>   3. Re: short term rental policies (CJ Q)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 20:03:48 -0600
> From: Karin Hoskin <karinhoskin [at] gmail.com>
> To: cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org
> Subject: [C-L]_ short term retal policies
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> When Wild Sage first formed about 20 years ago Airbnb / VRBO simply was not
> a thing aaaaand now it is. We're reviewing our CC&R's and policies to
> decide if we want to change anything both in regards to long term rentals
> but* especially* in regards to short term rentals. I'm on the hunt for
> short term rental policies for a cohousing community home ... does anyone
> have anything to share?
> 
> It would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> In community,
> Karin
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2022 11:59:32 -0400
> From: Sharon Villines <sharon [at] sharonvillines.com>
> To: Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ short term rental policies
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>> On Apr 21, 2022, at 10:03 PM, Karin Hoskin <karinhoskin [at] gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> When Wild Sage first formed about 20 years ago Airbnb / VRBO simply was not
>> a thing aaaaand now it is.  I'm on the hunt for
>> short term rental policies for a cohousing community home ... does anyone
>> have anything to share?
> 
> Normally we don?t allow rentals shorter than a month. Sometimes people say 
> that friends or family will be using their unit over the weekend and will 
> introduce them by name. The Bylaws say no transient use. Transient is usually 
> defined as less than 30 days. 
> 
> But whatever you do, and since you have been around for 20 years you know 
> this, make provisions for an _onsite_ host for anyone staying anywhere on the 
> property. Things happen. Emergencies come up. Someone has to take 
> responsibility for ?unknowns?. Someone needs to know the name of the person 
> who is now dead and hanging over the fence.
> 
> Any program/option/opportunity has a workload attached. For a neighbor to 
> have to give directions to the local pharmacy or subway over and over and 
> over, becomes work for most people. Some people adore being a host and 
> meeting new people. If you have such a person, then you may have an 
> opportunity to allow people to experience cohousing with short term stays 
> that don?t affect the whole neighborhood.
> 
> The other issue is ?who is this person?? People who have stayed here are 
> known to the owners and often to other residents ? friends and relatives who 
> are repeat guests over the years. But people making reservations on BnB are 
> unknowns. The absent owner can?t vouch for them.
> 
> Sharon
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> Sharon Villines
> Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC
> http://www.takomavillage.org
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2022 14:05:19 -0400
> From: CJ Q <homeschoolvideo [at] gmail.com>
> To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ short term rental policies
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> This conversation reminds me that there is a group of us working on house
> swaps for cohousing.  We are developing best practices (to orientate the
> guests) and ways to connect people. The goal is for cohousing people to
> visit and stay in another cohousing.
> Soon we will have a list of names of people who are up for an exchange.
> Email me if you are interested in traveling or hosting or both.  Summer
> travel will be here soon!
> 
> Carol
> homeschoolvideo [at] gmail.com
> 
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:59 AM Sharon Villines via Cohousing-L <
> cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org> wrote:
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>>> On Apr 21, 2022, at 10:03 PM, Karin Hoskin <karinhoskin [at] gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> When Wild Sage first formed about 20 years ago Airbnb / VRBO simply was
>> not
>>> a thing aaaaand now it is.  I'm on the hunt for
>>> short term rental policies for a cohousing community home ... does anyone
>>> have anything to share?
>> 
>> Normally we don?t allow rentals shorter than a month. Sometimes people say
>> that friends or family will be using their unit over the weekend and will
>> introduce them by name. The Bylaws say no transient use. Transient is
>> usually defined as less than 30 days.
>> 
>> But whatever you do, and since you have been around for 20 years you know
>> this, make provisions for an _onsite_ host for anyone staying anywhere on
>> the property. Things happen. Emergencies come up. Someone has to take
>> responsibility for ?unknowns?. Someone needs to know the name of the person
>> who is now dead and hanging over the fence.
>> 
>> Any program/option/opportunity has a workload attached. For a neighbor to
>> have to give directions to the local pharmacy or subway over and over and
>> over, becomes work for most people. Some people adore being a host and
>> meeting new people. If you have such a person, then you may have an
>> opportunity to allow people to experience cohousing with short term stays
>> that don?t affect the whole neighborhood.
>> 
>> The other issue is ?who is this person?? People who have stayed here are
>> known to the owners and often to other residents ? friends and relatives
>> who are repeat guests over the years. But people making reservations on BnB
>> are unknowns. The absent owner can?t vouch for them.
>> 
>> Sharon
>> ----
>> Sharon Villines
>> Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC
>> http://www.takomavillage.org
>> 
>> 
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