Cohousing-L Mailing List: Re: Is there a high contact cohousing

[Hafidha Sofia (hafidhaao]

Songaia in WA state does 5 meals a week (even thru out the pandemic but with 
changes).

There’s not available housing there at the moment, but I’m sure we’re not the 
only ones who still do regular meals.

Songaia is a very relational community, and we’ve worked through a lot of 
challenges to stay connected.

Hafidha
associate member
Songaia Cohousing
Bothell WA

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> On Aug 29, 2022, at 5:03 PM, Kathleen Lowry <kathleenlowrylpcclmft [at] 
> gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi! I had a great experience with an ad hoc  coho community during COVID. 
> Three of us decided to become COVID family so we met most mornings for coffee 
> and most evenings for a small potluck meal. Saved my mental health.
> Now I’m looking for a cohousing community and would love one like that-where 
> most days there is a group that gathers once if not twice every day. 
> Wishful thinking? 
> Kathleen
> 
>> On Aug 29, 2022, at 6:28 PM, Rud Merriam <rudmerriam [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Locally in Texas the sale price is not publicly available. The appraised 
>> value is public record. The Realtor website lists a range for the selling 
>> price.
>> 
>> Zillow is a general source for price information, also.
>> 
>> Generally, everyone knows the purchase price when the community started. Why 
>> shouldn't everyone know resale prices? That's part of being in the community.
>> 
>> <Making a note that our by-laws / HOA rules will include this as a 
>> requirement.>
>> 
>> 
>> -73 -
>> *Rud Merriam K5RUD*
>> Silverwood Commons, TX (in formation)
>> 
>>>> On 8/27/22 19:49, David Heimann wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>>    A quick note ... at least in Boston, and I believe generally, the sale 
>>> of a condo unit or any other housing and the price of that sale as well as 
>>> the appraised value of the unit, is public information.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> David
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2022 13:28:03 -0500
>>>> From: Kathleen Lowry <kathleenlowrylpcclmft [at] gmail.com>
>>>> To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Secrecy vs Right to Privacy? Sharing vs Hiding?
>>>> Message-ID: <77F66CF6-92D7-4598-9862-8C80EBA71D21 [at] gmail.com>
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>>>> 
>>>> Very good question. As a family therapist we say individuals, and possibly 
>>>> families ?are as sick as they are secret.? Secrecy and trust are 
>>>> antithetical. Kathleen
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 29, 2022, at 1:13 PM, Sharon Villines via Cohousing-L <cohousing-l 
>>>>> [at] cohousing.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?I have been flummoxed recently by one or two stoutly stated claims that 
>>>>> information about sales and new residents does not have to be shared with 
>>>>> anyone except the Board because it is a violation of the right to 
>>>>> privacy. Sharing the asking price of a unit is unacceptable and no one?s 
>>>>> business unless they are making an offer. New resident information is 
>>>>> made available after the unit is sold, even after closing. It is 
>>>>> confidential.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When we recently discussed the policy on architectural review and worked 
>>>>> on clarity about what needed review and what didn?t and how to record 
>>>>> this, right to privacy was raised. Who could see this information? What 
>>>>> right did people have to ask?
>>>>> 
>>>>> The legal question here is easier to answer ? by law the condominium has 
>>>>> to sign a document swearing that no changes to the unit have been done 
>>>>> that violate any of the condominium rules so it should have some 
>>>>> protection against liability. And if you start rearranging the plumbing 
>>>>> it affects this whole wing of the building. But where does this idea come 
>>>>> from that people want to keep everything secret and it has nothing to do 
>>>>> with living in a community?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Legally a condominium owner can sell to whomever they please within the 
>>>>> zoning codes, etc., but does that mean they should/could/can/might keep a 
>>>>> sale secret until someone notices they are moving out and someone else 
>>>>> seems to be moving in? Or no one is moving in and the unit seems empty?
>>>>> 
>>>>> But we have an exclusive rights in our bylaws so that the Association can 
>>>>> always purchase a unit rather than having it go up for auction. How do we 
>>>>> exercise this right if the sale is none of our business?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Certainly the community spirit of "we all in this together," "what you do 
>>>>> affects all of us," and "we can only do this if everyone is on board? 
>>>>> develops more strongly in the development phase when things are touch and 
>>>>> go. When units are selling for half a million dollars and there is a 
>>>>> bidding war, ?its my money? is a stronger argument than when everything 
>>>>> is at risk. But is it inevitable that selling units will be just like 
>>>>> selling houses on the open market?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why would I want to live in cohousing if I wanted to do whatever I 
>>>>> pleased, no questions asked, and no information shared? And why would I 
>>>>> even live in a condominium ? a shared ownership scheme.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is this sentiment increasing in other communities?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sharon
>>>>> ----
>>>>> Sharon Villines
>>>>> Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC
>>>>> http://www.takomavillage.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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