Re: How to assess HOA fees? | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Sharon Villines (sharon![]() |
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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:12:14 -0700 (PDT) |
At Takoma Village our dues are based 50% equally and 50% variable based roughly on square footage and number of Limited Common Elements. The rationale for HOA dues is so rife with assumptions that it is very hard to accurately determine what is equitable—I’ll use “fair” to mean equitable because it is easier to type and pronounce. We discovered years after move-in that the original spreadsheet used to calculate prices and dues was wrong for more than half our units. The more we looked at the figures and what was supposed to be included that was not the more things we found out of line. The amounts are not huge but are still not fair. It has been impossible so far to correct them because we haven’t found a formula to which everyone consents. All the rationales for making dues equal for all units have not borne out. There are not more people living in large units than in small. We have 3 people in 2 bedrooms and 1 in 4 bedrooms with a full basement. Those living in small units do not use the common facilities more than those in large units. Large unit use the guestrooms as often as small units. The only stable variable is that large units cost more to maintain. We recently had to replace sprinkler heads. The smaller units had 7 sprinkler heads and the largest had 21 — the cost was 3x greater for large units. We replaced the roof. Large units have the same SF cost as 3 of the smaller units because they are stacked. The smaller units are thus subsidizing the larger units in several ways. When the fees were being calculated the members were afraid that if they placed the costs and dues equally based on interior SF, which in terms of maintenance and replacement still wouldn’t be fair, no one would buy the large units. But I don’t think any of us realized how much greater the large units cost to maintain at market value. The vast portion of our dues are spent or reserved for maintenance, repair, and replacement of the innards and outers of the buildings. For materials, utilities, labor, taxes, services, etc. There is only about $5,000 in a ~$300,000 operating budget that could fairly be attributed to unique cohousing costs. (Most non-cohousing condos now have many common facilities and budgets for community events.) Somewhere in the literature there has to be a "theory of condo fees” that analyzes the costs and how to apportion them fairly but it must be in publications directed at professional managers because I haven’t been able to find it. Actual practices vary widely and make no sense the closer you look. The value of an ocean view may be added. What I’ve learned in studying this topic is that the best reason for condos being cookie cutter shaped with identical porches and balconies and grouped with all the two bedrooms in one building and the one bedrooms in one building is that it avoids the debate about fairness when the roof is replaced. And it helps if all units face the same direction to account for desirability. Sharon ---- Sharon Villines Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC http://www.takomavillage.org
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