Re: Unoccupied Units & the Effect on Workshare | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Bonnie Fergusson (fergyb2![]() |
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Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2023 13:40:19 -0800 (PST) |
Sharons info has made me happier today. I’ve been unhappy recently about the number of absentees and the increased workload for the rest of us in our Community. Actually about 1/2 of our residents are very active in Community affairs when I count them up and another 1/4 are somewhat active so I guess we aren’t doing to badly after all. We are a smaller Community so absentees have a bigger impact.Bonnie FergussonSwans Market Cohousing Oakland, California Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Sunday, January 22, 2023, 12:02 PM, Kathleen Lowry <kathleenlowrylpcclmft [at] gmail.com> wrote: Sharon, Your openness and honesty is such a gift. Thank you. Kathleen > On Jan 22, 2023, at 1:19 PM, Sharon Villines via Cohousing-L <cohousing-l > [at] cohousing.org> wrote: > > >> >>> On Jan 15, 2023, at 11:59 AM, Marilyn Seiler <marilynseiler72 [at] >>> gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I would appreciate feedback and discussion on the increasing >> number of members absent from the community for extended periods of time. > > We have been pretty clear with each other that we don’t expect people to move > in planning to live part-time somewhere else. We have been lucky since we > don’t have it written down anywhere—we just talk about it. During the > Pandemic, 2-3 households at a time were living elsewhere, usually with family > out of the city. Some have since moved. > > We have one unit that has been rented for the maximum amount of time allowed > (3-4 years) and is still empty. This has led to reconsidering our rental > policy and the effect of non-resident sort-of-present owners — living > elsewhere in town but not ready to sell. > > Cohousing communities in the Sunbelt and the Snowbelt have worried about > this. In a small community it makes a big difference to have a hole next > door. The unit next to me will be empty for 6 months and has been empty at > times for a year or more before. I feel the lack of neighbors especially > because I have an end unit. > >> I would like to include members who are physically and mentally incapacitated >> and unable to participate. They have adequate paid support but the paid >> support does not participate in any community tasks or events except to >> occasionally assist in getting the member to the event and remaining to >> assist as necessary. > > This seems not to be as worrisome if the person has been living in the > community for years and contributed in many ways and becomes unable to > contribute. But what happens when a person wants to move in who can’t or > doesn’t plan to contribute from day one? Our only protection is making the > expectations clear. But I suppose we could also make an agreement with such a > person to pay a workshare fee. > >> It also adds work to the participating members in >> many very small additional tasks we perform to assure the safety and >> well-being of the member. > > This is one of the issues with rented units. One household has rented their > unit for the 3 months they have summered elsewhere and another has exchanged > homes with a household in the Servas program. The renters have most often > (always?) been delightful people who did contribute but it is still extra > work for others to orient people and caution them about stuff. > >> I know that I would like to remain in my home >> until I die, but is it fair to the Community to have a non-participating >> member, maybe as long as 2-3 years? How do we as a Community address this >> ever-increasing issue? > > In order to have people stay in their homes until death do us part, we need a > plan. A friend has her favorite cartoon posted over her desk: Two prisoners > are shackled hand and foot to the stone wall in a dungeon. And one says, > “What we need is a plan.” It feels like that some days. > > I think cohousing might have a lot to learn from senior living communities > and continuing care facilities. They have experience with the balance of age > groups and identified risks in terms of debilitating conditions. They > carefully balance the ages and conditions of new residents so it is > manageable. They know how many residents are likely to need “memory care”, > for example. How many people it takes to staff a unit of single-room > residences with shared common areas. > > This long trail of a message is to tie all these issues together into the > workshare thread. A resident with an MBA who had also been president of a > coop board and worked in a law firm, once said that our workforce was 1/3 the > number of our residents. Without actually tracking this on paper, I think > they were right. > > The estimate was that at any given time 1/3 would be ill or otherwise > overwhelmed with the demands of their personal lives and another 1/3 would be > people who were not highly competent or leaderly or entertaining. They > contribute at some level but can’t be depended on to do things as well as > others might want them done. I think that may be underestimating the > abilities of that 1/3, but it isn’t too far off. This includes people who > need a lot of coaxing, reminding, and supervision. Some are more hesitant > than incapable. > > The people in each 1/3 change from one year to the next, but at any given > time of 60 adult residents, it might be standard that 20 will be the people > who are taking leadership in planning and doing activities. Another 20 will > participate in this or that and come to workdays sometimes. And 20 will be in > various conditions of unavailable. Sounds bleak but more realistic than > expecting everyone to do 6 hours a month. > > We tend to look at one list of jobs and another list of members and try to > match them up. What we probably need to do more is look at the history of the > community and the size of the most available workforce. How many people at > any given time are readily available? How many people will be stressed out > looking for jobs? Finding daycare? Recovering from ____? Taking time out > because they are still angry about some decisions made last year. > > When I come up against questions like this I wish I had kept a log. Although > I probably wouldn’t have thought to keep track of these kinds of things. > > Sharon > ---- > Sharon Villines > Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC > http://www.takomavillage.org > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://L.cohousing.org/info > > > _________________________________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: http://L.cohousing.org/info
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Re: Cohousing-L Digest, Vol 228, Issue 17 Marilyn Seiler, January 15 2023
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Unoccupied Units & the Effect on Workshare Sharon Villines, January 22 2023
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Re: Unoccupied Units & the Effect on Workshare Kathleen Lowry, January 22 2023
- Re: Unoccupied Units & the Effect on Workshare Bonnie Fergusson, January 22 2023
- Re: Unoccupied Units & the Effect on Workshare Virgil Huston, January 22 2023
- Re: Unoccupied Units & the Effect on Workshare Kathleen Lowry, January 23 2023
- Re: Unoccupied Units & the Effect on Workshare Sharon Villines, January 23 2023
- Re: Unoccupied Units & the Effect on Workshare Kathleen Lowry, January 23 2023
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Re: Unoccupied Units & the Effect on Workshare Kathleen Lowry, January 22 2023
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Unoccupied Units & the Effect on Workshare Sharon Villines, January 22 2023
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