Cohousing-L Mailing List: Re: Guest rooms

[Elizabeth Magill (pastorlizm]

Hey Rick at Monterey.
Thanks for your policy.

What does this mean?
SNIP [Email notification is required for non-resident guests in advance of
the
   stay. Rules for email notification do not apply for residents' use, but
the
   user's name must be included as Host/Guest on the Gather calendar.]

Mean. Aren't most or all users non-resident guests?

-Liz
(The Rev. Dr.) Elizabeth Mae Magill
Pastor, Ashburnham Community Church
Minister to the Affiliates, Ecclesia Ministries
www.elizabethmaemagill.com
508-450-0431


On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:33 AM Rick Gravrok <rick.gravrok [at] gmail.com>
wrote:

> Here at Monterey Cohousing in Minneapolis (St Louis Park) we have this in
> our Rules & Regs:
>
> COMMON SPACE - GUEST ROOM USE POLICY
>
> Approved at 11/19/2000 BOD; Rules & Regs 3/18/01; (d) added 8/19/2013;
> (e-h) added 6/24/2018; (e-f) modified 4/28/2019
>
>
>    1.
>
>    There is a two week limit on guests in Common Space - no more than 14
>    days in any 60 day period.
>
> b) Any extension of this limit must be pre-approved by BOD of Master
> Association.
>
>    3.
>
>    There must be a “qualified resident” (as defined in the Master
>    Association Bylaws) as host.
>    4.
>
>    Donations to the community, whether monetary or in-kind, can only be
>    received from members.  [Guests who wish to contribute can give funds to
>    their member host.  Member hosts may contribute these to the community.]
>    5.
>
>    Notifications are required via posting on the Gather calendar for
>    guests. Guest room reservation is only valid with required posting being
>    completed.
>    6.
>
>    Email notification is required for non-resident guests in advance of the
>    stay. Rules for email notification do not apply for residents' use, but
> the
>    user's name must be included as Host/Guest on the Gather calendar.
>    7.
>
>    Linens must be replaced same day as departure, and cleaned linens
>    returned to the room as soon as possible.
>    8.
>
>    The rules for guests on time limits and cleaning also apply to every
>    resident's use of the rooms.
>    9.
>
>    Guests will be informed of Common House Fragrance Policy, using the
>    language in Section (f) under Fragrance Policy.
>
> ==================
>
> Rick Gravrok
> St. Louis Park, MN
> iPhone 952-220-8153
> 952-926-6655 (landline)
> https://standupdaily.org
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 9:02 PM Main Email <zabaldo [at] earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > Hello Elizabeth and all…
> >
> > In my community of Takoma Village Cohousing, we have a guest room pod
> > (Team) that is responsible for the smooth working of the guest rooms.
> >
> > We have a policy or a set of guidelines consented to by the whole
> > community that defines the length of stay limiting it to 10 days for one
> > room and five days if you have both rooms.
> >
> > The host is required to make sure that the room is clean and ready for
> the
> > next guest including bedding.
> >
> > We ask for a donation suggesting $25 per night per room.
> >
> > We’ve had this policy/guidelines since very early on in our living
> > together.
> >
> > If a member host needs more time, they usually write to the community
> > stating their needs. I don’t think we’ve ever denied a member to extend
> > their use of the guest rooms.
> >
> > Everyone seems to support and adhere to the use of the guest rooms.
> >
> > One little editorial bit: you may have more pre-work to do on this issue.
> > For instance, not letting the community know that their  guest is
> homeless
> > or has a mental condition seems there might be a lack of trust issue.
> >
> > Also, I think in any situation in which there is a mental health
> > dimension, it becomes quite difficult to deal with an individual. The
> > suffering is great on their part and the community as well. At some
> point,
> > you may have to call adult protective services.
> >
> > Elizabeth, I think the first step is to work through the situations that
> > has led you to this point.
> >
> > Then try to get a set of guidelines or a policy that is consented to by
> > the whole community. That way you have something in writing that you can
> > refer to. It’s also helpful to have a team of people who manage the guest
> > rooms.
> >
> > You may have quite a discussion about whether to charge for the guest
> > rooms. We certainly have a difference of opinion on that here in
> > Takomavillage. We made it an optional donation. Some people pay it others
> > do not. We just live with the discrepancy.
> >
> > The guest rooms can be a good income stream for the community.
> >
> > Just get something on paper that the community can commit to. You can
> > always enlarge the guidelines later.
> >
> > Good luck, Elizabeth.  The situation sounds like another effing
> > opportunity for personal growth for your community.
> >
> > By the way, if I represented anything incorrectly, I’m sure one of my
> > neighbors on this list will jump right in and set the record straight.
> >
> > Ann Zabaldo
> > Washington DC
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > All tiipos ... curtesy of Siri  :-)
> >
> > > On Jun 24, 2024, at 8:31 PM, Elizabeth Magill <pastorlizm [at] gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm checking with communities about how how you deal with guest rooms
> > > for people in crisis.
> > > We require a member host for all guest room usage and have ended up
> > > with a variety of people in crisis staying in rooms.
> > >
> > > One of my friends stayed for several months, leaving if someone else
> > > needed the room. A couple struggling with their relationship ended up
> > > with one of the two in the common house for quite some time. A member
> > > with hip surgery ended up in a guest room for six weeks, as all our
> > > homes have stairs. A member invited a friend who turned out to be
> > > homeless to stay, and she didn't want to leave.
> > >
> > > All except the hip surgery required intervention to end the practice,
> > > and the intervention happened long after several folk were upset about
> > > it.
> > >
> > > My question for ya'll--have you had this? Do you have policies that
> > > don't allow this--if so what tod they say? How do you get someone to
> > > move on. How much of this is the responsibility of the host? (And if
> > > so, what if the host thinks it's fine?)
> > >
> > > We have two rooms, mostly unused, but all of these situations
> > > interfered with someone who wanted to use the room traditionally, as a
> > > place for the guests. And many people who want the space for guests
> > > won't ask the long term user to give them space.
> > >
> > > -Liz
> > > Elizabeth Mae Magill
> > > www.mosaic-commons.org
> > > In Berlin, MA.
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