Re: making cohousing affordable RE: Cohousing-L Digest, Vol 252, Issue 21 | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: b farris (btgf![]() |
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 15:02:34 -0800 (PST) |
Hi,Sophie; What systemic changes do you recommend? Izzy > On Jan 27, 2025, at 1:48 PM, Sophie Rubin <yophiest [at] gmail.com> wrote: > > I second Ty. > > Affordability for a wider range of folks is a widely shared value among > most co-housers. > > I’m a professional “affordable” housing developer with a decade of > experience who has worked on projects from micro units to large family > units in wood, concrete, steel, and mass timber - traditional construction, > panelized construction, and modular construction. I’ve worked ok > traditional tax credit projects (the standard model for income-restricted > affordable housing in the US) as well as non-tax-credit acquisition and > rehabilitation projects, including working with land trusts. > > The people enabling the construction of co-housing (that is, prospective > co-housers) are never making the housing more expensive than necessary to > get an easily buildable and re-sellable unit. > > It’s an extraordinarily complex issue and without financial subsidies - > public and/or private - or time and individual/community generosity (eg > units restricted after initial ownership or donated for affordability, > there are very few options for how to make units cheaper without otherwise > changing large portions of the cohousing model. > > Doesn’t mean I don’t want people to continue to care, be creative, and try. > > I just want folks who think the issue must be self-interest among the > majority of current or would-be cohousers to understand that, as Ty said, > it’s not a solvable problem without systemic changes. > > >> On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 10:02 Ty Albright via Cohousing-L < >> cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org> wrote: >> >> Re: Affordable coho. >> >> I have explored this in great length over the years. The solution requires >> a fundamental change in how the housing industry works. In short, its >> ultimately a political issue that requires change in regulations. >> >> The key issues are: >> 1). Municipality requitements and limitations which add cost to >> construction. Some locations are worse than others. >> 2). The mortgage industry in entrenched in how it does business. It's a >> well-oiled machine that generates and issues mortgages in great volume. >> However - with few exceptions - mortgages are only available for "tired and >> true" product types - such things as wood framed 3BR / 2Bth single family >> detached homes are easily understood in the underwriting process and can be >> issued a mortgage easily. Alternative (i.e. "not proven") technology and >> construction techniques are not easily understood by an industry that now >> makes plenty of money and has no incentive to change - so getting a >> mortgage >> on a "earth house" for example is difficult. >> 3). Home Insurance industry - same challenges as the Mortgage industry. >> >> For these reasons it has been more difficult to develop coho - this results >> in mostly - "only people with money" having access to coho. >> >> Changing municipality regulations and the home mortgage and home insurance >> industry is too big a challenge for any one person to take on. >> >> In my experience - the only way to have lower cost housing of any type is >> to >> move to a location that cost less to live. Not everyone wants to live in >> Oklahoma. >> >> Ty >> >> >> ----- >> >> >> > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://L.cohousing.org/info > > >
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making cohousing affordable RE: Cohousing-L Digest, Vol 252, Issue 21 tmalbright, January 27 2025
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Re: making cohousing affordable RE: Cohousing-L Digest, Vol 252, Issue 21 Sophie Rubin, January 27 2025
- Re: making cohousing affordable RE: Cohousing-L Digest, Vol 252, Issue 21 b farris, January 27 2025
- Re: making cohousing affordable RE: Cohousing-L Digest, Vol 252, Issue 21 Sophie Rubin, January 27 2025
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Re: making cohousing affordable RE: Cohousing-L Digest, Vol 252, Issue 21 Sophie Rubin, January 27 2025
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Re: making cohousing affordable RE: Cohousing-L Digest, Vol 252, Issue 21 Barbara Brant, January 27 2025
- Re: making cohousing affordable RE: Cohousing-L Digest, Vol 252, Issue 21 R Philip Dowds, January 28 2025
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