Re: Cohousing vs "traditional" self-managed community | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Mariana Almeida (missmgrrl![]() |
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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 16:28:29 -0700 (PDT) |
Marketing a unit in cohousing is fraught in a fair housing context. You want to know a lot about people, but the fair housing law essentially wants you to know less (so you can discriminate less.) This is my POV, not a legal one, but here goes: - If you say, "we want families with children" - this could be perceived as indirect discrimination on the basis of age (older people) or familial status (single). - If you say, "we have labor requirements" - this could be perceived as disability discrimination. - If you say, "we want racial diversity" - then you might be perceived as discriminating on the basis of color or race (for the race you want, even if it's a minority) I think it's possible to navigate this context, and get useful info from prospective people, if you're careful. For this reason, you may want to restrict who talks to the potential renters or owners so that they don't say the wrong things. - I don't think there are any problem with saying, "we want a neighbor who will be friendly and participate in meals" because this doesn't seem to overlap with a protected class. - You might be able to get away with describing demographics you have, and saying you have too much of it: "We have too many single white women over 50." Why: because you're not saying what protected class you don't want more of, lol. - I think you're always safe describing who you are, but you go into unsafe territory if you're describing characteristics of who you want to move in. A safe approach is leaving things incredibly open-ended, such as a form that simply says: "tell me about you and anyone else in your household who would be living with you." I would love to hear from POVs from people on this important topic! Thanks, Mariana For reference, California -- my state -- protects renters and homebuyers from discrimination andharassment because of race, color, religion, national origin, ancestry, disability, sex,gender, gender identity, gender expression, sexual orientation, source of income,marital status, familial status, genetic information, age, immigration status, primarylanguage, or citizenship. https://calcivilrights.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/32/2022/12/Housing-Rights-Booklet_English.pdf On Monday, May 19, 2025 at 01:14:54 PM PDT, Sharon Villines via Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org> wrote: > On May 19, 2025, at 3:47 PM, Lisa Kuntz via Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at] > cohousing.org> wrote: > > We are wondering how we can inform potential members of what to expect and > still be compliant with Fair Housing. Being compliant with Fair Housing is simple — don’t refuse potential residents because they are homosexual, black, have children, etc. All the people Trump and his father wouldn’t rent to. One of the warnings about coping with tyrannies is don’t comply in advance with an executive order or presidential declaration on TV that is illegal. What is going on now is that the administation is threatening violence so people will comply without having their orders declared illegal. They are unlikely to apply Fair Housing to anyone but you get the idea. They would if it served their puposes. The Fair Housing law doesn't say what you must do, only what you must not do. You must not cherry-pick buyers to avoid living with people in the classes protected by the Fair Housing law. Sharon ——— Sharon Villines “Overcoming poverty is not a gesture of charity. It is an act of justice.” — Nelson Mandela _________________________________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: http://L.cohousing.org/info
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Re: Cohousing vs "traditional" self-managed community Mac Thomson, May 19 2025
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Re: Cohousing vs "traditional" self-managed community Nancy Detweiler, May 19 2025
- Re: Cohousing vs "traditional" self-managed community Lisa Kuntz, May 19 2025
- Re: Cohousing vs "traditional" self-managed community Sharon Villines, May 19 2025
- Re: Cohousing vs "traditional" self-managed community Mariana Almeida, June 4 2025
- Re: Cohousing vs "traditional" self-managed community Lisa Kuntz, June 4 2025
- Re: Cohousing vs "traditional" self-managed community Linda Hobbet, June 5 2025
- Re: Cohousing vs "traditional" self-managed community Lisa Kuntz, June 5 2025
- Re: Cohousing vs "traditional" self-managed community Mac Thomson, June 10 2025
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Re: Cohousing vs "traditional" self-managed community Nancy Detweiler, May 19 2025
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Re: Cohousing vs "traditional" self-managed community Mac Thomson, May 19 2025
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