Re: Graduating to Cohousing on Steroids | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Lisa Kuntz (lisa.kuntz![]() |
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 16:24:42 -0700 (PDT) |
This a such a helpful message, Sharon, and brings up some issues that concern many of us in cohousing: aging buildings, aging bodies, more tasks, less energy. I never knew such a thing existed, although I have a friend in San Francisco who lives in a community that sounds similar. Keep us updated, please. Lisa Kuntz Daybreak Cohousing, Portland OR On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 7:51 AM Sharon Villines via Cohousing-L < cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org> wrote: > The reason I have been signing my posts with just “Sharon” is that I have > moved out of Takoma Village Cohousing and into a senior community. > Riderwood Village is literally cohousing on steroids. Everything that > existed at Takoma Village exists at Riderwood. Diversity of all kinds, for > example. 200+ groups including services to the community, services to a > local elementary school, integration of programs with a community college, > book discussions, library management. 200+ is a lot and some are small or > inactive. And the party planners do promise that their parties end at 9:30 > unless otherwise appropriate (New Years Eve). > > I began looking at a senior community 3 years ago because I could see the > toll that caring for her father who had had a stroke was taking on my > daughter. In the prime of her life, her fifties, when she had accomplished > professional success and finanacial security so she could “retire” early > and follow her dreams, she was spending days and weeks on the telephone or > the train to supervise his 24/7 care. She was tense and sick and in no > shape to even find out what her dreams might be. > > Takoma Village was approaching its 25th anniversary and the founders who > remained in the community, including myself, were slowing down and more > frequently just not available to do the work of supporting the community. > We were adding to the work because we required more attention or were > unable to provide attention. For several years, someone had warmed a frozen > dinner or brought a dinner to a person who could no longer manage his > microwave. It was a quick task and those how took it on enjoyed both > cooking and the conversation. Then a 92 year old began being disoriented, > particularly at night. A visiting schedule was set up so someone visited > her everyday to keep her connected. Those examples are just 2 of many. > > At the same time, the buildings were all requiring their 200,000 mile > maintenance—the really big one of 20-25 years. These were major projects > that required making decisions about things we knew nothing about. On top > of having to hire large contractors to do the work, we had to hire > engineers to analyze what we needed. The contract for replacing the > balconies and decks was almost 4 inches thick. We were no longer able to > act as a group making facilities decisions by consensus because we knew > very little about them. Consent focused on accepting a contract that seemed > reasonable. It wasn’t like solar panels or insullation that many of us knew > about. > > I gradually realized why other cohousing members had moved to senior > communities in their 80s because they felt unable to contribute. They > contributed a lot but they just didn’t have the energy to cope with > thinking about the on and on of facilities management, orienting new > residents to community values (which takes a lot of time and attention), > and coping with their own lives and their adult children’s problems. It is > a rude awakening to realize that those neat little families of 2 children > would keep expanding into infinity until we had to have a calendar to > remember birthdays which seemed to be happening weekly. > > My daughter’s stress level plummeted when I agreed to put down a deposit > to reserve a space at Riderwood. I still had no intention of moving. Over > the next 3 years I considered what Riderwood was really like. The > experiences that convinced me that it was a possible place to live were (1) > whenever anyone referred to “the community” they included the staff in the > number. “A community of 3,000+ people.” (2) They held a gay pride parade on > campus that included staff and residents and posted pictures on the > website. (3) The 200+ clubs are mostly “teams” who manage all the tasks > that cohousers do for each other. Except manage maintenance and repair and > cooking meals. > > Cohousing has a scale problem. At 40-50 units, it is very difficult to > maintain the facilities in any other way than a monthly work day to clean > and do small repairs. The more expensive the units become the more people > have to work to pay for them. > > The “Neighbors in Deed” directory at Riderwood is 46 pages of names and > numbers of residents who have offered services: walking pets, opening jars, > changing batteries, hanging pictures, taking a photograph, sewing buttons, > mending, shopping, resetting clocks, wrapping packages, wake up calls, > closet cleaning, errands, help with technology. > > Riderwood doesn’t stress it’s coninuing life care programs. It only admits > people into independent living and most of the staff is focused on making > independent living comfortable. Whatever I need, I call either "General > Services" to fix things or a coordinator of a team/service for information > or advice. Each door has a latch that someone sets late at night that flips > up when the door is opened. Any latch not tripped by about noon means a > knock on the door to be sure everyone is alright. They knocked on my door 4 > times in the first month. I was opening my door at 1-2 am to trip the > latch, but the staff had decided to set the latches at 3-4 am becuase many > people were still coming home at midnight. > > All of the security staff are EMS certified. If soneone is not okay, they > know what to do. “I’ve fallen and I can’t get up” calls are responded to in > 3-5 minutes. > > This is only part of what life is like here. People are very welcoming and > friendly. People sitting next to each other talk to each other. It is > literally cohousing on steroids. There are 4 residential buildings around a > community building that is like a common house on sterioids — the wood shop > is incredibly well stocked, 2 resturants (casual and finer dining), a front > desk peopled 24/7, a bar open a few hours a few days a week, a craft room, > a classroom, a laundry, a salon, a gym, etc. Garden plots—flowers or > vegetables. > > This is why I said I’ve graduated from cohousing. I want to figure out how > a community of 3,000 people manages to feel like a community when some are > paid staff and others residents and others are very busy volunteers. The > Resident Handbook is written by the Resident Coordinator’s team and is 150 > pages. Somehow it manages to maintain a friendly suggestive tone instead of > mandating rules. > > The residents also maintain a website of calendars, schedules, and email > lists. I was here for 3 days without knowing about “Chatterwood” which is a > general members list. It was a 3-day weekend and I really didn’t want to > bother staff with newby questions or go around knocking on doors. All of > which I could have done. But when I connected with an email list, I knew I > was home. (There are also lists for ride sharing, politics, etc.) The > topics are all the same as those on the Takoma Village members list. > > One feature of having staff is there are many highschool and college > students who are running around. Three staff members where just promoted to > management positions who began 20 years ago as college students with > scholarships. Gifts and tips from residents to staff are “not allowed” > because some staff are less visible — they don’t want the bias. The > discussion at lunch with 2 total strangers was how to give gifts without > violating the rules to 2 workers who were graduating from college this > month. They decided that if they went to the graduation, they would not be > giving Riderwood service gifts. These were clearly friends. > > So my plan is to continue writting about what cohousing could learn from > other kinds of residential communities. Many things that people say only > exist in cohousing is not true — many of them exist in traditional > apartment buildings and certainly in condos. There are some areas where > senior communities are behind cohousing and some that senior communities > are ahead of cohousing. > > Sorry this is so long but I knew none of these things a few years ago and > they make the move understandable. Workshare is a continuing problem in > cohousing and I don’t see any alernatives without a change in scale. > > Sharon > —— > Sharon Villines > Riderwood Village, Silver Spring MD > > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://L.cohousing.org/info > > > >
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Graduating to Cohousing on Steroids Sharon Villines, June 12 2025
- Re: Graduating to Cohousing on Steroids Diana Carroll, June 12 2025
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Re: Graduating to Cohousing on Steroids Sophie Rubin, June 12 2025
- Re: Graduating to Cohousing on Steroids Sharon Villines, June 16 2025
- Re: Graduating to Cohousing on Steroids Lisa Kuntz, June 12 2025
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Re: Graduating to Cohousing on Steroids Mac Thomson, June 13 2025
- Re: Graduating to Cohousing on Steroids Sharon Villines, June 22 2025
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