Re: Accounting | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: David Hungerford (dghungerford![]() |
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Date: Thu, 20 Oct 94 16:21 CDT |
> Seeing how various groups have set up their accounting would be very > valuable to us ... we're wrestling over how to assess homeowners fees > right now, and haven't even begun to think about how we're going to > track them when we start living at Highline. I suppose a lot of the > variations will be in how the fees are assessed, and thence the divying > up of the funds into whatever reserve funds are deemed necessary. > > What have various groups done about accounting in general? > How are people 'counted' for various parts of the homeowners fee ... > What's on a per person basis ... per unit ... per square foot ... etc ... > and how are children, their needs/costs accounted for in the homeowners fees? At Muir Commons we have fixed homeowners fees originally set by the State, since we are technically a condo with an HOA. This fee was set using a standard formula, it includes (in theory) operating costs, insurance, reserves (for future repairs.) We have the power to change those fees at any time we wish, and have. We've lowered our fees from $100 to $95/month/hh, but added a $30 capital improvements fee. We're currently reviewing our reserve plans, since the state estimates are rather vague. Each house pays equally on all of these things. Everything is done on a per person basis, but everything is paid equally on a per household basis ('cept meals.) Children are not counted at all (except for meals.) Committee membership, work contributions, common house cleaning, landscape work is done per adult while the rest of our budget/bills are divided equally by household. This has been a topic of ongoing discussion. The one exception to this has been laundry use, where we charge ourselves, at estimated marginal cost per load for wash/dry/soap. This came up early on for two reasons: 1) the desire to encourage energy conservation and 2) because of the wide diversity in laundry use (some people have laundry machines in their houses, so rarely use common house; singles do a heckuva lot less laundry than families w/children.) We have had a number of discussions about "user fees" vs "group ownership" over the past 3 years and I can't do justice to the discussion in this forum (even the definitions of these terms remain ambiguous). However, we have agreed that nothing in our accounting/paying-for-things structure should ever make people feel excluded, and that we shouldn't expect to add an accounting system for anything that requires as much effort as the meals, or even the laundry, because we don't want to create any more tasks than we already have (i.e. none of us want to micromanage or *feel* micromanaged.) I've been amazed at some of the posts from other groups over the last few months which talk about "work chits," "per sqft fees" and so on. How do you guys find time to do that kind of detailed accounting?? I guess what's important is that everyone in the group feels that the system in place is fair (which may be a very different thing than "equal," "equitable," or "evenly divided.") David Hungerford Muir Commons
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Accounting Deborah Behrens, October 19 1994
- Re: Accounting David Hungerford, October 20 1994
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