RE: Image fear/stereotypes | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Rob Sandelin (floriferousmsn.com) | |
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:59:01 -0700 (MST) |
Judy I think you missed my point. The key point was the "stop listening" part. Lots of people, including me, have no interest in living in a commune, but I think in order to ever be a successful cohouser you need to keep on listening, even when you disagree. If you are so inflexible that you stop listening because you project commune onto Cohousing, you most likely would never make it through the first cohousing meeting, much less ever live in such a place. In the outreach work I do I have met a few folks that project all kinds of things onto cohousing, and don't bother to even listen while I explain that their fantasies are all wrong. They walk away convinced that they know what they know and don't listen to any other perspective. These folks would never, ever make it in a cohousing community, THANK GOD! The world to these folks is flat, and no amount of evidence will ever convince them otherwise. For example, I know a lady who smokes 2 packs a day and has had three cancers. She is convinced that the whole cigarette/cancer connection is a liberal plot constructed by liberal lawyers to bilk the stupid people. She has had more than 20 doctors because as soon as one tells her to stop smoking he reveals himself as part of the liberal conspiracy. I am not making this up. She really believes this. She holds down a job, pays taxes and goes to church. So her insanity is not dangerous, except of course to her. So my point was, its a waste of your time to even talk with folks like this about cohousing. Best to stick to safe topics like the weather. Lots of cohousers know about communes, the fact that they kept listening while someone explained cohousing shows that they have at least that much going for them. Rob -----Original Message----- From: cohousing-l-admin [at] cohousing.org [mailto:cohousing-l-admin [at] cohousing.org]On Behalf Of Judy Baxter Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 10:43 AM To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org Subject: Re: [C-L]_Image fear/stereotypes From: Judy Baxter, Monterey Cohousing, Minneapolis, MN I agree with Rob, *and* disagree. <In my experienced opinion, people who are so afraid of communes that they stop listening, will NEVER be involved in any cohousing project anyway. So worrying about them is a waste of your time. Rob Sandelin > I see a continuum of intentional communities - with cohousing towards the *individualistic end*, i.e. private, self sufficient homes, a 'non-ideology ideology (good point, whoever said that) . My impression is that the word "commune", mostly inaccurately, evokes images of more sharing, less privacy, sometimes required meal attendance, + (sometimes) the Woodstock images and statements about sex and drugs that Fox network prefaced to their story about us. I don't think you have to be "afraid" of communes to prefer a different kind of community, and you may well be attracted to cohousing and not to your concept of a commune. So, I don't think we should panic about the "c-word", but pay attention to the message we send. Judy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Judy Baxter, Monterey Cohousing Community,(MoCoCo) Twin Cities Area, Mpls.,MN where, after 8 years in residence, we are finally ready to take on re-doing our porch into a 4 season large space for play, dance, . . . ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A studio size home may be for sale in future, we don't know when ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Voice Mail for Monterey Cohousing - 952-930-7554 web page: http://www.jimn.org/mococo/ _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe info: http://www.communityforum.net/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe info: http://www.communityforum.net/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l
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