Re: red/blue schism | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Stephan Wik (stephan![]() |
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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:07:01 -0800 (PST) |
On 24 Feb 2005, at 20:41, Jan wrote:
It is very difficult for a person raised in a non-supportive environment tocome from a "self-empowered place."
Indeed. I'm sure the very term would be Greek to them.
On the other hand, certain fundamentalist organizations seek those with low self-esteem.
Which is exactly what happened in the '30s in Germany. With disastrous results of course.
Becoming part of a fundamentalist organization is better than succumbing to drugs, alcohol, depression, a life or crime or suicide, to name some ofthe paths often taken by persons of low self esteem.
When you put it that way it does seem like fundamentalism is the lesser of two evils. Unfortunately there are some fundamentalist organisations that encourage behaviour that leads to even worse damage, both personal and social, than the above named paths.
You may be interested to know that this is one of the biggest problems that Intentional Communities and anything that seems remotely similar such as co-housing grapple with in some parts of Europe (especially France and Belgium). 'Sects' have a bad name (and rightly so IMHO) but unfortunately this has lead to anything 'alternative' being labelled as a Sect. Steiner schools, environmentalists, alternative medicine; all have been thrown into the same category as some total nut cases such as Solar Temple
http://www.religioustolerance.org/dc_solar.htm Read about the French Law on Sects here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4196233,00.html
If one must be self-empowered to be active in cohousing--and it seems to methis is so--cohousing is definitely not for everyone.
I would not agree. The cohousing we lived in Denmark was full of totally 'normal' people that would certainly not have called themselves 'self-empowered'. Having said that the Danes are a pretty self-empowered society with a high level of personal self-esteem compared to many other countries I've lived in so maybe it's not so clear cut.
Current social trends seem to be producing many non-self-empowered people.
Maybe because if people are self-empowered they buy less? :-)
The comfort of belonging and the assurance of a better life in heaven are non-trivial benefits. Another great benefit is the avoidance of disastrous life choices for one who follows the rules. Having been "saved" by such rigidity, it may be difficult for a person to turn one's back on it.
Until the rigidity becomes a straight-jacket! I enjoyed the clarity of your input. Stephan Leuven, Belgium
- Re: red/blue schism, (continued)
- Re: red/blue schism Tree Bressen, February 21 2005
- Re: red/blue schism Saoirse Charis-Graves, February 22 2005
- Re: red/blue schism Stephan Wik, February 22 2005
- Re: red/blue schism Jan, February 24 2005
- Re: red/blue schism Stephan Wik, February 24 2005
- Homes for Sale in Paso Robles, CA a.jackson [at] charter.net, March 2 2005
- Re: Cohousing Development and Red/Blue Schism Ann Zabaldo, February 21 2005
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