|Re: coCamping project ADK A.C.R.E.S. - dreaming of cohousing? Clemons, NY||<– Date –> <– Thread –>|
|From: Bob Goodrich (SoutheasternADKaol.com)|
|Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:03:58 -0700 (PDT)|
Raines Cohen & Bob Morrison thank you for your comments. Yes I had looked at the Pinnacle Project (Lyme, NH) online, and I do believe that my former campground/manufactured home park property with waterfront would love to become similar to this project. At this time I do not have the "Gem" to work with that they have. I have my "Diamond in the Rough" that Mother Nature has blessed me with in the Southeastern Adirondacks, and much pre-existing infrastructure wells, power poles, some septic systems(no permit is needed to perform routine maintenance, such as replace a tank, without working on leach field), along a town road that cuts through my property. I am sorry if I appeared to be fractured, but part of that is the fact that the property may be used for more than just one thing, or project. The other is my organizational skills(or not) at this stage in life. I am planning to see if I can get off work for some of the tours coming up in New England this fall. I have some existing infrastructure, and ideas. I don't have any plans, per se, but I was thinking of coming up with some possible ideas a try at least on scrap paper, so that there is something to think about. I think that some of the reason I haven't gotten any bites in the past with help on my camp site project is due to my lack of a "real" plan. But I am very open to suggestions, guidance, offers of assistance? So as not to reply to the questions in CAPS, I tried to use [ ] around my comments/replies. Raines Cohen asked "Let's see if I've got the essence of it: [I answered between the brackets] * on an existing 197-acre site you own (and an adjacent parcel across the tracks?) [Yes an additional small waterfront multi-unit residential of about 400x50 ft is on the Southern Lake Champlain with the boat launch.] * building a campground/retreat [bringing back to life property with about 35 former Trailer/camp sites, that has house & garage buildings each with space for an efficiency apartment or ? both areas used as efficiency & camp store in the past] * with a mix of affordable (outside subsidized) and market-rate housing [this was more of a hope due to seeing in other cohousing projects online] * incorporating senior cohousing/aging-in-place/universal design [no matter where building wisely to be prepared for our changing needs is just plain wise in my mind] * lot-model development of tiny homes [my little attempt to raise some funds, while offering people that wish to locate, or build their own "tiny house retreat" in the woods, with garden overlooking Southern Lake Champlain, or a stream] * "retrofit" cohousing of existing structures [I was wondering if this fell into a "retrofit" due to having existing layout of 35 Manufactured home sites, in various levels of overdue routine maintenance, or upgrades, along 7/10th mile town road that cuts through southern end of property. I know not exactly good layout to keeping vehicles outside... but other pedestrian paths would help] * in a resort-destination seasonal location [yes about 30 miles, or about 45 minutes from famous Lake George resort area, only about 6.5 miles from Huletts Landing on the northeast end of Lake George. That is why I say I'm on the "Quiet side of Lake George" on Southern Lake Champlain.] * with profit-sharing and time-sharing [I am thinking profit sharing to some extent for those that either loan me funds for repairs/upgrades, or those that assist me in moving forward, a family could help me evaluate a couple of sites, or a section, and adopt a site, and not only get their money back, but a portion of the future income from the site, or section that is now available to rent] * refundable (but not on-demand) investments [Yes, for prospective members of camping or fishing club that is also helping investigate cohousing possibilities on the property. I have been offering this has a member-run camping and fishing club to cover taxes, insurance, and other related expenses, while I cover the mortgage! Similar to allowing the club to rent/manage part of the property for a low rate that covers taxes/insurance/etc. Then I learned about cohousing, and I would love to apply that concept to this campground project, while looking at preserving much of the property, but doing some responsible development. During the winter I had a builder talk about a joint venture to build/sell about 10 eco-friendly homes in the woods, then the economy tanked, and I like the cohousing model much better than 10 more hidden anti-social more buildings in the woods.] * an eventually-established finance committee democratizing the process [sooner rather than later would be great, once current year emergency expenses are taken care of. I desire to be part of the membership, but I look forward to getting off the pedestal. Due to the size of the property there may be multiple projects, rugged farming, remote retreats, or ?? on other parts of the property. But as long as the taxes are covered and we, my future group, are improving our quality of life, as a camping, recreation destination, retreat to discuss cohousing & agri-tourism, farming & camping, maybe with some co-horsing, or co-cowing going on... then I'm willing to listen to ideas, and most likely move forward. But the whole I'll help you if you give me a piece of land... or do you want to sell... options haven't appealed to me. I plan on spending many years enjoying the property with others with similar interests, whether it be for vacations, or year round housing, is yet to be determined.] * potential "seasteading" floating-community options. [Not quite, seasteading as I know it is off shore in the ocean. But I can easily see 4-8 floating park model campers on the waterfront, with water/elec hook-ups from my boat launch or shore, septic pump outs, or composting toilets?] This feedback is great, and has my mind just racing, but I still feed a bit fractured. But my chin is up, and I will keep on learning. I just got my first cohousing book in the mail yesterday. Offline I can be reached at 802-479-3441(please leave a VM with number) or PO Box 790, Stowe, VT 05672-0790.
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