Cohousing-L Mailing List: Maintaining the conversation

[Ruth Hirsch (heidinys]

Hi,

I hope this comes across as ok, and gets the conversation back on track-- and 
off the distraction.  This is the second time in recent memory that this same 
dynamic has taken place here.  There was a recent discussion re: CommonHouse 
use,  WT threw in comments of interest to him, and off went the discussion 
chasing WT's ball.  I suppose is fine for W to write to the List--- but we do 
not then have to spend a bunch of energy on responses to what I'd call a 
distraction.  I really would like to see this discussion back on track.  

These have been two big and important topics: 
CH use, and 
pets/dogs.  Please do write how your communities are doing on these, or even on 
the current one: dogs-- actually, we have neighbors with concerns about cats 
doing in song birds, so if you have any cat policy, pleas do tell.  
Thank you, Ann, Leland and Katie for speaking up.  Please can we help ourselves 
maintain our conversation, and acknowledge Wayne: --WT, please do not 
distract-- which --my concern-- leads to another round of distracting 
conversations-- re: WT's concerns, or do not acknowledge, but not get 
distracted by what seems to be what may be called a red herring.  
Sorry if this is redundant/unfriendly  but this is a very valuable forum, and 
seeing is shift has been problematic.

Ruth


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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 20:21:23 -0400
From: Ann Zabaldo <zabaldo [at] earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [C-L]_ dogs in community

Wayne and all --

How would knowing the answers to your questions be helpful in dealing w/ this 
issue?  I'm not picking at this -- I'm trying to understand what inferences you 
could draw from knowing if 5% or 50% of the owners/residents are dog owners.

If only one resident has a dog and that dog is a problem then the community has 
a problem.  If 100% of the residents have dogs and none of them are a problem 
and the community at large has no problem w/ the dogs then ... there's no 
problem.

I don't know what difference it would make in a cohousing community if one or 
more people on the board have or do not have dogs.  Since most governing boards 
in cohousing work at the behest of the membership the membership is the body 
that sets "the rules" ... O!  Excuse moi!  I meant "guidelines."  :-)

I'm probably missing something glaringly obvious so do fill me in.

:-)

Woof!

Best --

Ann Zabaldo
Takoma Village Cohousing
Washington, DC
Principal, Cohousing Collaborative, LLC
Falls Church VA
703 663 3911

On Jun 26, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Wayne Tyson wrote:


CoHo:

What is the proportion of dog owners to non-owners among the respondents to 
this thread and its sub-threads?

What is the proportion of dog owners to non-owners on this list at large?

What is the proportion of dog owners to non-owners on the governing boards?

Thank you for your responses,

WT 
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 18:26:32 -0600
From: Leland Baker <lhbaker [at] ecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [C-L]_ dogs in community


Is it just me who expects someone asking for information requiring a 
fair amount of work for many people to state why the information is 
needed and what will be done with it?  This is a rhetorical question.  
Please don't respond.

Leland
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 20:21:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Katie Henry <katie-henry [at] att.net>
Subject: Re: [C-L]_ dogs in community

Wayne,

This is another message where you come across to me as a conspiracy theorist 
looking to uncover the hidden authoritarian nature of cohousing. Why else would 
you ask about dog ownership on "governing boards" vs. list members at large? It 
sounds to me as if you hope to reveal that dog owners take on positions of 
"power" to avoid being subject to pet policies, or to craft pet policies in a 
way that favors them. Why else would you seek that information? 


Katie Henry

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